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ESU SwitchPilot V2.0 51820 vs new VIESSMANN 5285 Multi-protocol switching decoder vs Märklin M83 - Pros and cons of new switching/turnout decoders
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Offline Peluo  
#1 Posted : 08 September 2018 18:42:14(UTC)
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Peluo

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I have a couple of the old Viessmann 5211 switch decoders and I need more for my layout. Does any body have tried the new decoders from Viessmann, Marklin, ESU and other brands? Marklin decoders look like ESU ones. What are the difference between white M83 vs new black M83 version? I have a old CS2 60213. May get a CS3plus in the future and also connect a PC with some software.
Other posible brand is littfinski datentechnik (ldt) does anyone here use this decoders?
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Offline Peluo  
#2 Posted : 08 September 2018 19:02:53(UTC)
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There is also a cheaper Viessmann 5280. Don’t know what are the differences.
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Offline Goofy  
#3 Posted : 09 September 2018 08:45:35(UTC)
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Hello!
I did just bought CS3 and are planned to buy an Märklin m84 with mfx.
Difference from the old and the new are protocol and type of programming with the CV adress.
Also to use external power source like 66360 from the old 66361.
To use external power you need also power supply unit 60822.
m83 60831
m84 60841
m83 60832 mfx
m84 60842 mfx
It´s also difference with the catalog number.
Other manufacturer do also have turnout/switch decoder with MM/DCC protocol and should also work with the Märklin system.
Depends if your system stand with correct set protocol next to decoder.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
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Offline PeFu  
#4 Posted : 09 September 2018 10:54:11(UTC)
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I use the S-DEC-4-MM from Littfinski since 2002:

https://www.ldt-infocent...Decoder/Turnout-decoder/

Very reliable and a nice price. Cool
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Offline AndyFrew  
#5 Posted : 26 December 2018 18:50:55(UTC)
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Hi...you may use different brands of decoder on you layout, you use a starting address that is a multiple of 8 plus one. Then it will work more simply with anything like the Hornby 8247 that uses group addresses. You won't then have point or signal numbers you.

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Offline applor  
#6 Posted : 27 December 2018 04:24:00(UTC)
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For my Marklin turnouts I use Lenz LS150 decoders. They are DCC and can have 6 paired outputs compared to the standard 4.
modelling era IIIa (1951-1955) Germany
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Offline Goofy  
#7 Posted : 27 December 2018 10:58:44(UTC)
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For my Marklin turnouts I use Lenz LS150 decoders. They are DCC and can have 6 paired outputs compared to the standard 4.


This decoder are the best i have used with it! ThumpUp
There is programming button too.
You need anyway external power feeder and only trafo 16VAC maximum at 45 VA.

H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
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Offline applor  
#8 Posted : 28 December 2018 05:28:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: applor Go to Quoted Post
For my Marklin turnouts I use Lenz LS150 decoders. They are DCC and can have 6 paired outputs compared to the standard 4.


This decoder are the best i have used with it! ThumpUp
There is programming button too.
You need anyway external power feeder and only trafo 16VAC maximum at 45 VA.



45VA limitation is only to avoiding overloading the short circuit protection in the LS150 though.
modelling era IIIa (1951-1955) Germany
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