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Hi everyone, I bought an S 3/6 recently and wondered what rolling stock I need to get to match its era and Royal Bavarian heritage. It seems the i version of the prototype that it models only ran 1911-18 before the collapse of the Bavarian monarchy required the 'royal' references on its livery to be removed.
The only coach I can see that has the royal livery is item 4135. Others in the 41** series are similar but have the German State Railway emblem on them from the 1920s. Perhaps some earlier (19th century?) coaches might have been pulled by the S 3/6.
I'd be happy with freight wagons as a consist but I don't know where to start to accumulate suitable items.
Any suggestions appreciated.
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Originally Posted by: pip384  Hi everyone, I bought an S 3/6 recently and wondered what rolling stock I need to get to match its era and Royal Bavarian heritage. It seems the i version of the prototype that it models only ran 1911-18 before the collapse of the Bavarian monarchy required the 'royal' references on its livery to be removed.
The only coach I can see that has the royal livery is item 4135. Others in the 41** series are similar but have the German State Railway emblem on them from the 1920s. Perhaps some earlier (19th century?) coaches might have been pulled by the S 3/6.
I'd be happy with freight wagons as a consist but I don't know where to start to accumulate suitable items.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Actually all Era I coaches from Bavaria and its neighbour countries. Once Trix offered a set https://www.trix.de/prod...e/details/article/23232/which my give you an impression or perhaps you can buy a used one.
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While I appreciate your attention to history and detail, I’m in the process of matching my S 3/6 to cars in this series: https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/43050/While the model is era III, they were first built at the turn of the century. In my case I’m making custom decals for my little railroad, Acreage Line, as real life is of only passing consequence here in the NoCal woods. |
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Originally Posted by: jbblunck While I appreciate your attention to history and detail, I’m in the process of matching my S 3/6 to cars in this series: https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/43050/While the model is era III, they were first built at the turn of the century. In my case I’m making custom decals for my little railroad, Acreage Line, as real life is of only passing consequence here in the NoCal woods. I just realized that Märklin offers at the moment era I coaches of the Royal Bavarian State Railroad (K.Bay.Sts.B.). These will fit perfectly for a S 3/6. https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/41358/The others get the art# 41359, 41369 and 41379.
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Yes, and those cars are superb! |
 German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL |
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Originally Posted by: franciscohg Yes, and those cars are superb! I agree and I am very happy with mine. One slight caution is that they are originally TRIX coaches which means that they are beautifully detailed but lighting them for 3-rail use is not easy. But eventually I will figure out how to light them properly with CC couplers and then they will be perfect! |
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I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Originally Posted by: franciscohg Yes, and those cars are superb! I agree and I am very happy with mine. One slight caution is that they are originally TRIX coaches which means that they are beautifully detailed but lighting them for 3-rail use is not easy. But eventually I will figure out how to light them properly with CC couplers and then they will be perfect! I have the Trix coaches, and I have lit them using Train-Tech lighting kits. They are really easy to install, are battery powered so no need to mess around with pickups and special couplers, and they switch on automatically when they sense motion and off again when they have been stopped for about 4 minutes. They are fairly expensive but not so much when you realise you save on the other bits you don't need. I highly recommend them.   |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Originally Posted by: RayF
I have the Trix coaches, and I have lit them using Train-Tech lighting kits. They are really easy to install, are battery powered so no need to mess around with pickups and special couplers, and they switch on automatically when they sense motion and off again when they have been stopped for about 4 minutes.
They are fairly expensive but not so much when you realise you save on the other bits you don't need.
I highly recommend them.
You coaches look beautiful Ray, thanks for posting those images. I think that is my favored solution at this point as well and it is good to get a specific recommendation on the product that you used.  I tend to get wound around the axle on a perfect solution with homemade CC couplers and custom lighting, when in reality something like that is often a better solution and more likely to actually happen during my lifetime.  |
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Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: RayF
I have the Trix coaches, and I have lit them using Train-Tech lighting kits. They are really easy to install, are battery powered so no need to mess around with pickups and special couplers, and they switch on automatically when they sense motion and off again when they have been stopped for about 4 minutes.
They are fairly expensive but not so much when you realise you save on the other bits you don't need.
I highly recommend them.
You coaches look beautiful Ray, thanks for posting those images. I think that is my favored solution at this point as well and it is good to get a specific recommendation on the product that you used. I tend to get wound around the axle on a perfect solution with homemade CC couplers and custom lighting, when in reality something like that is often a better solution and more likely to actually happen during my lifetime. These are the kits I'm referring to. http://www.train-tech.co.../interior-coach-lightingI ordered the CL200 Warm white pack of 3 ( 2 x CL2 and 1 x CL22 £58) I didn't use the extra tail light in the kit and I didn't put any lights in the baggage car. |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Originally Posted by: RayF
I ordered the CL200 Warm white pack of 3 ( 2 x CL2 and 1 x CL22 £58)
I didn't use the extra tail light in the kit and I didn't put any lights in the baggage car.
Very cool - thanks for the link Ray! I don't think I will light the baggage car either but I may use the tail light kit in one coach. If you consider all of the costs in assembling a lighted set of coaches I bet that is within the ball park on cost anyway. My rake of coaches is pulled by my 37015 S 2/6 and makes a beautiful train. I hope to eventually find an S3/6 to add to my other Bavarian Beauties. |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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Wow, lot's of great suggestions for matching the S 3/6. Thanks guys.
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Hi, may I ask which S3/6 you have bought? Is it the King Ludwig Bavarian blue version?  Coach stock wise well as the Märklin sets mentioned earlier in the thread, Märklin did a range of K.Bay.Sts.B green livery single coaches see; Märklin 41351 Märklin 41359 Märklin 41361 Märklin 41371 Märklin have also done some 3 axle K.Bay.Sts.B coaches, prototypically I am not sure if the 3 axle coaches would have been pulled by the S3/6 locos, I am sure someone on this forum will advise, see; Märklin set 43982 Bayerischer Personenzug Märklin set 43320 K.Bay.Sts.B passanger car set Then other manufacturers that I am aware of include Trix, I think they only made green livery coaches (not aware of any blue livery); Trix SWB 3 axle coaches include Trix 23019, 23016, Trix LWB four axle coaches include; Trix 23762, 23764, 23765, 23766, 23767 If you are looking for some royal coaches to pull, then there is Roco who made a selection of Era 1 K.Bay.Sts.B livery coaches as part of their 'Platinum' range which are ridiculously expensive but they are stunning models. Here is the King's Salon Wagon Roco item 44807   I also have the S3/6 in K.Bay.Sts.B beige livery and although possibly not prototypical I use this loco to pull the Marklin set 42757 'Die Goldenen Zwanziger' If you are looking to pull freight cars, there is a quite large range of Era I stock (across all manufacturers) to put together interesting consists. I hope this helps BR [PS: The numbers given above are from my database and may contain errors.] |
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I have the S 3/6 in green, Marklin model 3092. The Roco royal coaches look stunning.
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Originally Posted by: pip384 I have the S 3/6 in green, Marklin model 3092. The Roco royal coaches look stunning. IMHO any of the K.Bay.Sts.B. green livery coaches will look great with this loco.  |
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