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Offline Oscar  
#1 Posted : 20 December 2005 20:36:14(UTC)
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[img]http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6022213466&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting[/img]

This is a real rare bird. I'd love to have it. That box is about 1 metre long :)! Gotta love it!

It's on Ebay. Current price is € 931,00. Auction ends in 2 days.
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Offline Oscar  
#2 Posted : 20 December 2005 20:41:20(UTC)
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Made a mistake posting the image. Here it is:

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On December 19, one of these was sold through Ebay USA for over $ 2,000.
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Offline jte  
#3 Posted : 20 December 2005 20:44:39(UTC)
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The German secondhand dealer Kurt Bothner has one 3025 "Triebwagen" for sale with original box, good cond. The price tag is 1800,- EUR.

I have bought many items from Kurt, he's reliable and fast.

http://www.bothner-model....de/html/triebwagen.html

Juha
Juha Telimaa
http://www.dlc.fi/~jte/english/TrainsFrameSet.html
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#4 Posted : 20 December 2005 20:56:52(UTC)
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I am lucky enough to have come upon one of these. However, while like new in condition it has been converted to 2 rail! The parts seem to be all there and it was by no means a hackjob but I don't know how to convert it back! I will post some photos tommorow and would appreciate any help. It appears to have been converted a long time ago and shouldn't be tough to return to its original state but I will need some of you guys expertise. Wow, I've been avoiding this project for a while now. See what this forum can do!
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Offline Oscar  
#5 Posted : 24 December 2005 18:47:37(UTC)
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Given the worth of the 3025, I'd ship it to Märklin and have them do it. Alterations decrease the worth almost exponentially, so be careful!
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Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 06 January 2006 20:04:52(UTC)
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Very nice 3025,quite rare and worth a lot of money.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline 7gauges  
#7 Posted : 04 November 2006 22:39:59(UTC)
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I just received a 3025 today - in the original box with instructions. Apparently manufactured in 1959.

The biggest problem was a bent drive axle - which I replaced immediately (took a half hour), and for some reason I had a new axle/gear/wheels for this engine in my parts supply - these old engines are very easy to take apart and repair.

The model has the original two short schleifer for 3rd rail - should I replace these or will it run OK on the PUKO's of the modern Maerklin track?

Secondly - how do people feel about relative value of the model if I were two repaint the roof, good idea or bad idea? It's not super ugly - but I'm not sure if I like the spots on it that much.

Anyway - it is beautiful and puts modern Maerklin too shame; heavy castings,intuitive electrical construction, robust metal gears, and oddly enough that wonderful smell of an AC motor ionizing the air around it - this thing ran on the roller test stand right out of the box (even prior to fixing the axle).

Now if I can just find a nice SK 800 .... without the high command finding out .... Maerklin or a mistress - which one is ultimately less costly??????
Collecting / Fixing and Running trains since 1966.
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Offline MarklinFan  
#8 Posted : 04 November 2006 23:14:30(UTC)
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The two pictures at the top of this discussion did not work, so I found this with a Google search. Is this what we are talking about?

http://tischbahn.de/inde...triebwagen-von-maerklin/

Looks neat!
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Offline 7gauges  
#9 Posted : 05 November 2006 05:41:56(UTC)
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yes that is the one - prices on these have really come down
Collecting / Fixing and Running trains since 1966.
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Offline MarklinFan  
#10 Posted : 05 November 2006 11:27:29(UTC)
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In general, my experience from almost 50 years of collecting is that repainting almost always severely reduces collector value.

The owner who is considering repainting collectible items needs to answer a series of questions:

1. Is the paint so badly damaged that repainting will actually increase the value?

2. If no, will I keep the item for the rest of my life and do not care about my heirs getting maximum resale value?

3. If yes to both above questions, will I be happier with an excellent repaint than the original?

4. If yes, can I do the repaint or should I find a professional?

I would be interested to know what else should be considered?

P.S. - If the spots are from mold, you might try rubbing gently with a very soft cloth moistened in clear water.
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Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 05 November 2006 11:30:11(UTC)
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Well done 7gauges,very nice rare set.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline drstapes  
#12 Posted : 02 December 2006 03:09:34(UTC)
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re your 3025, I wish I had a pocket deep enough to afford one! Unless the paintwork is very bad I should leave it alone as repaints do reduce the collectable value, possibly by 25 to 50 percent. But then again its always going to be worth a lot being such a rare model.
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Offline Oscar  
#13 Posted : 04 December 2006 09:27:35(UTC)
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<font face="Verdana]The 3025 is attractive because of its rarity, it's indestructibility and that beautiful light-blue box. The model itself isn't very attractive to look at, I think. I'd still buy one if I had the money.</font id="Verdana]
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