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Offline MHauge  
#1 Posted : 07 December 2005 16:12:38(UTC)
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Is there any way to find out if a MS is a 1.2 or 1.9A version ?
I have one from my 29530 startset, i think it's the 1.2A version because it comes with the 18VA PSU, i would like one more and my dealer have some taken from startsets very cheap, but would like to get the 1.9A version.
Is there any external difference ?
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Offline Fredrik  
#2 Posted : 07 December 2005 16:24:52(UTC)
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If you start the MS up, select "Options" in the "Menu", scroll to "Info" and then turn the knob one step left you will be presented "OVC 1.2 A" which i presume is for the 1.2 amp. version - none of mine displays any different value, although coming from different start-sets (even the premium one).

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Offline viragoLDR  
#3 Posted : 07 December 2005 16:28:03(UTC)
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On the back there's a number, they differ for the MobStat versions. Can't remember which version has the catalog number (60652) though ;)
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Offline Lars Westerlind  
#4 Posted : 07 December 2005 17:09:50(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by viragoLDR
<br />On the back there's a number, they differ for the MobStat versions. Can't remember which version has the catalog number (60652) though ;)


Are you sure? I though that was the initial intention, but in the end all MobileStations got the same number?
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Offline viragoLDR  
#5 Posted : 07 December 2005 18:02:33(UTC)
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I haven't seen it myself, but I read something like that on a German forum somewhere.

Edit: Just had a quick look, there's people with mobile stations that have 60651 engraved on the back. Supposedly that's engraved on all 1.9A mobstats. 60652 is the 1.2A version.

Also, came across a rumour they're going to stop making the 1.2A version and add a 1.9A version to all new starter sets as well. Seemingly it happened too often that a 1.2A version ended up in a scale 1 starter set and most of the known mobstat issues all occur on the 1.2A version ;)
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Offline MHauge  
#6 Posted : 07 December 2005 20:31:31(UTC)
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Guess mine's the 1.2A version then, must be on the lookout for a 1.9A.
Mine says OVC:1.2A in the menu and 60652 on the back, so i will try to find a 60651 to compare with.
Thanks for the help.

By the way : Anyone have the 1.9A version to check for OVC:1.9A in menu and number on the back ?
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Offline Rocca  
#7 Posted : 07 December 2005 23:11:54(UTC)
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Hi Michael, SmileSmile

The 1.9 amps output current versions have the number on the base of the controller 60651.
The 1.2 amps output current versions have the number on the base of the controller 60652.

Best regards
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Stefano

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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MHauge
<br />Guess mine's the 1.2A version then, must be on the lookout for a 1.9A.
Mine says OVC:1.2A in the menu and 60652 on the back, so i will try to find a 60651 to compare with.
Thanks for the help.

By the way : Anyone have the 1.9A version to check for OVC:1.9A in menu and number on the back ?
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Offline prc  
#8 Posted : 07 December 2005 23:22:34(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fredsaf
<br />If you start the MS up, select "Options" in the "Menu", scroll to "Info" and then turn the knob one step left you will be presented "OVC 1.2 A" which i presume is for the 1.2 amp. version - none of mine displays any different value, although coming from different start-sets (even the premium one).

Fredrik.


I have a 1.9 ms and you are exactly correct. OVC will display 1.9 A.

Paul
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Offline MHauge  
#9 Posted : 08 December 2005 03:52:48(UTC)
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Ok, Then it's a 60651 i have to look for, but i think the ones my dealer had from startsets was 60652, but i'd better check it next time i get by.
Thanks for all the help.
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Offline Lars Westerlind  
#10 Posted : 08 December 2005 10:10:04(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fredsaf
<br />If you start the MS up, select "Options" in the "Menu", scroll to "Info" and then turn the knob one step left you will be presented "OVC 1.2 A" which i presume is for the 1.2 amp. version - none of mine displays any different value, although coming from different start-sets (even the premium one).

Fredrik.


I have a 1.9 ms and you are exactly correct. OVC will display 1.9 A.




Paul,
would you mind telling what number it has on the back? 60651 or 60652?
Some of the confusion comes from the fact that the 1.2 A units in starter sets have engraved 60652, which is the catalog number for the separate sold 1.9 A.
Another statement to be confirmed is that the units have exactly the same hardware, but software prevents the 1.2 A unit to deliver more current. I'm aware that if true, it makes Märklins explanations in FAQ less honorable (that the existance of two units is explained by the fact that the starter set units should be cheaper to produce).
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Offline kgsjoqvist  
#11 Posted : 08 December 2005 11:45:31(UTC)
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It is very annoying, indeed, that there are 2 versions...

It seems like the 2nd hand units from starter sets are sold on ebay for 50-60€ and a 1,9A amount about 100€ or more.
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Offline prc  
#12 Posted : 11 December 2005 09:24:33(UTC)
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Paul,
would you mind telling what number it has on the back? 60651 or 60652?
Some of the confusion comes from the fact that the 1.2 A units in starter sets have engraved 60652, which is the catalog number for the separate sold 1.9 A.
Another statement to be confirmed is that the units have exactly the same hardware, but software prevents the 1.2 A unit to deliver more current. I'm aware that if true, it makes Märklins explanations in FAQ less honorable (that the existance of two units is explained by the fact that the starter set units should be cheaper to produce).
/lw



It has 60651 on the back. My 1.2's have 60652.

Regards
Paul
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Offline Lars Westerlind  
#13 Posted : 11 December 2005 13:54:10(UTC)
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OK, thanks. The question remains why the numbers are switched, compared to the catalog.
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Offline plutoodie  
#14 Posted : 12 December 2005 21:42:39(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Lars Westerlind
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fredsaf
<br />If you start the MS up, select "Options" in the "Menu", scroll to "Info" and then turn the knob one step left you will be presented "OVC 1.2 A" which i presume is for the 1.2 amp. version - none of mine displays any different value, although coming from different start-sets (even the premium one).

Fredrik.


I have a 1.9 ms and you are exactly correct. OVC will display 1.9 A.




Paul,
would you mind telling what number it has on the back? 60651 or 60652?
Some of the confusion comes from the fact that the 1.2 A units in starter sets have engraved 60652, which is the catalog number for the separate sold 1.9 A.
Another statement to be confirmed is that the units have exactly the same hardware, but software prevents the 1.2 A unit to deliver more current. I'm aware that if true, it makes Märklins explanations in FAQ less honorable (that the existance of two units is explained by the fact that the starter set units should be cheaper to produce).
/lw



Same hardware - different software - hmmmm, this makes me thinking... I have found two files on the Central Station, that looks like they are the software for the two versions of the mobile stations... Maybe we can cheat and download the 1.9A software on a 1.2A mobile station???

If somebody can tell me how trigger the download to a mobile station I have already downloaded to, then I can test it... Anybody know how to trigger a re-download?
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Offline grnwtrs  
#15 Posted : 12 December 2005 22:28:44(UTC)
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Originally posted by fredsaf
<br />If you start the MS up, select "Options" in the "Menu", scroll to "Info" and then turn the knob one step left you will be presented "OVC 1.2 A" which i presume is for the 1.2 amp. version - none of mine displays any different value, although coming from different start-sets (even the premium one).

Fredrik.

Thanks for another heads up. I almost forgot how to verify the 1.2a versus the 1.9a, not that I have the 1.9a.

I have 3 ms, two came with the start sets 29751( Fire set) and 29571 (NY Central) With the 29571 I also got a transformer (6001). Both ms that came with these sets have 6052 noted on the back of the controller.

I also bought another controller on Ebay. It is also 1.2a, most likely from one of the low end start sets. It also has 6052 on the back of the controller.

Still trying to remember how to use all the functions, and I plan to wait for a couple of years for the new CS Smile


Gene
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Offline clapcott  
#16 Posted : 13 December 2005 07:35:45(UTC)
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While annoying this has been documented for months on page 10 of the users manual.

Possible Uses for the Mobile Station

60652 individual controller, controller from 1 Gauge starter sets:<ul><li>Suitable for Märklin H0 and 1 Gauge. </li>
<li>Maximum output current: 1.9 amps (with 60052 Transformer). </li>
<li>Connections only by means of special connector box. </li>
<li>Number on the base of the controller: “60651” (!) </li>
</ul>
Controller from Märklin H0 starter sets:
<ul><li>Suitable for Märklin H0. </li>
<li>Maximum output current: 1.2 amps (with 60052 Transformer).</li>
<li> Connections only by means of special connector box.</li>
<li>Number on the base of the controller: “60652”.</li>
</ul>
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