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Offline scraigen  
#1 Posted : 23 April 2016 20:09:11(UTC)
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Is it possible to buy boxes of K-Track, eg a box of 10 straight, 10 curves, X number of flex-track is this simply not possible? I'm getting ready to start buying K-track for my new layout but unlike C-track which is available in expansion packs and multipacks which make economic sense, is there really no option but to price up on an individual basis for K?
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 23 April 2016 20:25:05(UTC)
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Straight K track comes in boxes of 10, curves in boxes of 6.
Buy 20 straight tracks and most dealers will send you 2 boxes.

If tracks come from starter sets then they will come without boxes - can happen with C track and K track (but I think there were no K track starter sets for some time now).
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Offline scraigen  
#3 Posted : 23 April 2016 22:33:06(UTC)
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Thanks, Tom, but are there any order codes to order a box of 10 and any economic benefit in doing so?
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Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 23 April 2016 22:38:49(UTC)
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Some dealers only sell multiples of 10, some dealers have discounted prices for 10+, 30+, 60+, whatever.

I use C track for club meetings - and having boxes for the tracks makes transportation a little bit easier. I don't see other benefits.
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Offline scraigen  
#5 Posted : 23 April 2016 22:49:39(UTC)
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Thanks Tom, The only benefit I'm interested in is economy of scale, ie a box of 10 costing less that 10x the price of one, that's the crux of my question.

Lets forget the boxes, does anyone know dealers that do discounts for larger orders of track?

I've used this website before http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com the UK dealers seem quite a bit more expensive, but are they any others that anyone can recommend?

Cheers

Stu
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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 23 April 2016 23:56:15(UTC)
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I used Märklin 2200 as a benchmark.

This dealer wants € 2.23/piece if you take 60+:
http://www.lokmuseum.de/

This dealer wants € 2.29/piece for any amount:
http://www.mbs-fischer.de/gerades-gleis-217.html

This dealer wants € 2.27/piece for any amount:
https://shop.lokshop.de/


So it's not always cheaper to buy large quantities - but postage is cheaper if you buy all at once.
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#7 Posted : 26 April 2016 02:28:22(UTC)
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I have found lokshop.de to have very good prices

when buying K-track note that buying the 2005 flex tracks is the cheapest (by linear length) so if you buy just flex track and turnouts you can cut the flex track to whatever length you need. Once you have done a few cuts you get the hang of it and it gets easier. See http://layout.mixmox.com/1/laying-track and http://layout.mixmox.com...20020106Ktrackcuttingjig
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Offline scraigen  
#8 Posted : 27 April 2016 16:09:29(UTC)
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Thanks Tom, the prices on lokmuseum.de do seem quite favourable compared to http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com

Thanks Dale, I had already come to the conclusion that flex track does indeed appear to be far more economical than attempting to buy all the little pieces required. I guess my question about boxes or rather more importantly discounts for quantity and if after buying pieces in 10s, 20s or 30s was wether or not flex track was still cheaper after the bulk discounts.

During my planning stage, the moment I put flex track on the plan with long gentle curves the happier I felt about it.

Thanks for the links on laying and cutting the track, I came across this today http://xuron.com/index.p...n/consumer_products/3/13 I'm suspicious as to their suitability and longevity for cutting track. It says can cut nickel silver HO track is that what K track is made of?
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Offline H0  
#9 Posted : 27 April 2016 16:17:42(UTC)
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It seems that prices for C track and K track will increase by about 10% as of June 1st. So if you need larger quantities, make sure your order is at the dealer in time before end of May.

Most dealers will invoice the old prices even if delivery is in June or later.
Regards
Tom
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Offline PMPeter  
#10 Posted : 27 April 2016 16:31:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scraigen Go to Quoted Post
Thanks Tom, the prices on lokmuseum.de do seem quite favourable compared to http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com

Thanks Dale, I had already come to the conclusion that flex track does indeed appear to be far more economical than attempting to buy all the little pieces required. I guess my question about boxes or rather more importantly discounts for quantity and if after buying pieces in 10s, 20s or 30s was wether or not flex track was still cheaper after the bulk discounts.

During my planning stage, the moment I put flex track on the plan with long gentle curves the happier I felt about it.

Thanks for the links on laying and cutting the track, I came across this today http://xuron.com/index.p...n/consumer_products/3/13 I'm suspicious as to their suitability and longevity for cutting track. It says can cut nickel silver HO track is that what K track is made of?


K track rails are stainless steel. That is why they are difficult to solder to without special flux.

Xuron makes a special rail cutter for Marklin stainless steel rail. I have used mine now for 3 years and it shows no sign of wear. The standard Xuron rail cutter designed for nickel silver will not last.

Cheers
Peter
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Offline Minok  
#11 Posted : 28 April 2016 00:45:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scraigen Go to Quoted Post

During my planning stage, the moment I put flex track on the plan with long gentle curves the happier I felt about it.


In my layout planning stages I figured that buying fixed curve and straight modules only made sense in helping :
1) Keep curvature above the minimum (360 radius for example)
2) Keeping two parallel tracks parallel.

You can run it all with flextrack (other than the switches and such specialty bits like crossings and the like), and with a good set of spacing guides ( http://proses.com/a1hobb...th=41&products_id=87 ) one can do layout exclusively with flextrack.

They also make one for C-track; I am planning my layout around C-track and K-track(flex) - using C-track where I'd like to take advantage of the reliable connectivity and easy of interfacing (eg in helix that will end up under a mountain cover), and use the K where I want gentle direction changes to not run parallel to the structure edges or make slight bends on long runs.

For the rest - I'm still on the fence of C vs K. Given the ability to use C with balast in a non-glued-down form (using Märklin of Sweden's technique of putting a styrofoam layer between the tracks as he did for his M tracks).. I may use more C track. The easi of connection via the under-bed plugs solves so many problems and will reduce the pain to the fingers greatly.
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