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Offline Timnomads  
#1 Posted : 23 February 2016 11:33:17(UTC)
Timnomads

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Hi All
I have an SBB E3/3 shunter 36330 I want to try and add a telex coupler I found on Ebay, and hopefully control uncoupling through my CS2

telex coupler.jpg

I am not an expert with marklin digital but would this be possible with my older digital shunter ? If the soldering is easy as it is my first attempt, I would like to give it a try.

sbb 36330 shunting loco.jpg

Thanks in advance

Tim
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 23 February 2016 13:43:40(UTC)
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Hi, Tim!
Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
If the soldering is easy as it is my first attempt, I would like to give it a try.
I don't have this loco.
You will probably need a new decoder. And you will have to find solder pads for AUX1 and AUX2 and Plus. The loco probably has an ESU decoder, maybe with a NEM 652 plug.
It could be difficult to find room for the Telex cables.

Did you ever open your loco?
Regards
Tom
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Offline Timnomads  
#3 Posted : 23 February 2016 13:46:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Hi, Tim!
Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
If the soldering is easy as it is my first attempt, I would like to give it a try.
I don't have this loco.
You will probably need a new decoder. And you will have to find solder pads for AUX1 and AUX2 and Plus. The loco probably has an ESU decoder, maybe with a NEM 652 plug.
It could be difficult to find room for the Telex cables.

Did you ever open your loco?


No I did not, I will have look at the weekend and take aphoto of what i find

Tim

Offline river6109  
#4 Posted : 23 February 2016 13:59:12(UTC)
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Tim, there is nothing wrong with trying, and my motto is: there is a way , the only thing you have to do is find it,, by using an ESU decoder you can add 2 telex coupling under Aux 1 and Aux 2, it would be nice if you have a lokprogrammer and it is very easy to program the pulse time and with Version 4 lokpilots you have other options it actually pushes the carriage a bit forward, I personally would recommend it and hopefully you can find a way. if not as many photos from the front and rear coupling outside and inside and I should be able to assist you if you need help. I've added telex coupling to a E BR 63/163 and they only had coupling hooks

John
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Offline biedmatt  
#5 Posted : 23 February 2016 14:09:15(UTC)
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Hi Tim, This could be impossible. As Tom states, you will need a new decoder. The old FX can't be reconfigured, so you can't add functions that were not there from the beginning. Physically, from the exploded diagram, it looks like it may be impossible. The FX decoder fits around the motor and drive gears, optimizing space. A new decoder, even an ESU with leads attached (no adapter board) may not fit. Perhaps there is room between the motor and the body housing. I wish you luck.

https://medienpdb.maerkl...es/1/pdf/36330_explo.pdf
Matt
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DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
Offline Timnomads  
#6 Posted : 24 February 2016 09:08:18(UTC)
Timnomads

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Hi All
I had a look inside the loco and I do not think I have enough space.

So I will have to buy another shunting loco, interestingly the latest Marklin SBB offering
the two half shoes 36332

half shoes.jpg

They do not have telex couplers, why not ????

Tim
Offline RayF  
#7 Posted : 24 February 2016 10:56:20(UTC)
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Maybe they were trying to keep the price down - they are already very expensive!
Ray
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Offline river6109  
#8 Posted : 24 February 2016 14:21:39(UTC)
river6109

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Tim, why don't you take th housing off and let me see what room there is available. an ESU decoder should fit into the space what ever was there before

John
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Offline Ross  
#9 Posted : 24 February 2016 21:06:33(UTC)
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Hello Tim/All,

This is how I did a Telex upgrade to the 36331 loco which I'm sure will give you a few ideas.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~...lokpilot_36331_telex.pdf



Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
Hi All
I have an SBB E3/3 shunter 36330 I want to try and add a telex coupler I found on Ebay, and hopefully control uncoupling through my CS2


I am not an expert with marklin digital but would this be possible with my older digital shunter ? If the soldering is easy as it is my first attempt, I would like to give it a try.

Thanks in advance

Tim


Ross
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Offline Timnomads  
#10 Posted : 25 February 2016 14:30:56(UTC)
Timnomads

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Originally Posted by: Ross Go to Quoted Post
Hello Tim/All,

This is how I did a Telex upgrade to the 36331 loco which I'm sure will give you a few ideas.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~...lokpilot_36331_telex.pdf

Hi Ross
Sounds as though its just what I need but I can't get the link to work for the PDF, can you try and attach it to the thread as an attached file please.
Thanks
Tim


Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
Hi All
I have an SBB E3/3 shunter 36330 I want to try and add a telex coupler I found on Ebay, and hopefully control uncoupling through my CS2


I am not an expert with marklin digital but would this be possible with my older digital shunter ? If the soldering is easy as it is my first attempt, I would like to give it a try.

Thanks in advance

Tim




Offline Ross  
#11 Posted : 25 February 2016 22:39:05(UTC)
Ross

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Hi Tim,

I'm not sure why the link isn't working for you as it works for me ok.

If you can't use the link just visit my web pages and under TIPs you will find the file.



Originally Posted by: Timnomads Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Ross Go to Quoted Post
Hello Tim/All,

Hi Ross
Sounds as though its just what I need but I can't get the link to work for the PDF, can you try and attach it to the thread as an attached file please.
Thanks
Tim


Ross
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