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Offline Huco  
#1 Posted : 09 September 2015 10:05:56(UTC)
Huco

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HI all!
Im new to this forum, having stumbled across it when I first became interested in converting my Dads 40+ year old M track collection to digital! Lots of wonderful information, so I hope Im not asking something that has already been answered.
I have purchased the Control Station 2 (60215), and want to order decoders for my turnouts, uncouplers as well as lighting, building smoke, etc. Can I do all of this with M83 decoders?
In summary, my question is, does the M83 (60831) just supply a pulse of power when activated, or can I program them to supply continuous power? If yes, then what is the point of difference for the M84 decoders. What does it do that the M83 doesn't?

Many thanks in advance!BigGrin
Online H0  
#2 Posted : 09 September 2015 11:43:25(UTC)
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Hi!
Welcome to the forum.

The output of the M83 will always come from digital track power - OK for solenoids, but lights may flicker.
The M84 can switch external power sources. Power from a transformer is considered cheaper than track power (requires a booster).

With M84 it may not be cheaper in the end, but lights won't flicker. And you will be able to use different voltages for the lights - maybe use the speed knob of an old transformer to adjust brightness.

Have you seen Peter's review thread:
https://www.marklin-user...light-reading#post426854
Regards
Tom
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Offline sjlauritsen  
#3 Posted : 09 September 2015 20:17:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
The output of the M83 will always come from digital track power - OK for solenoids, but lights may flicker.

What if you use an external power source for the m83? Wouldn't that take over the power outputs and take the load of the digital bus?
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Offline sjlauritsen  
#4 Posted : 10 September 2015 21:49:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sjlauritsen Go to Quoted Post
What if you use an external power source for the m83? Wouldn't that take over the power outputs and take the load of the digital bus?

To answer my own question. Smile I did some tests with the m83 and the 60822 "noise reduction/overload protection/k83 connector"-unit. The output - when connected to an external power source - comes from the power source and not the track. The 60822 can be supplied with the digital signal, but only to feed digital signals to the decoders on the chain. Your LEDs should not flicker when using an external power source.

Oh, and btw. I did an article last year about the m83, that you might find interesting. It describes the different lighting functions that you have at your disposal.
http://railway.zone/post...-way-it-should-have-been
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Offline Huco  
#5 Posted : 10 September 2015 23:01:35(UTC)
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Thanks to both of you for your help! I have ordered 10 x M83 and 2 x m84, so I can have a play around with them.
The capabilities seem pretty amazing to me, so I am looking forward to their arrival!
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