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Offline Herrfleck  
#1 Posted : 11 January 2015 19:49:02(UTC)
Herrfleck

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Hello!

I visted a toy museum near my home town. They have a lot of Märklin trains.

I have been there for a couple of times and there is always something new!

This time it was very special, I have only seen it in pictures before.

It's fully functional and the owner of the museum demonstrated it!

He also told me the story behind this particular wheel. It has been owned by a bicycle shop that also sold Märklin, and the museum had rescued it from being thrown right into the garbage when the building that held it was gonna be renovated.

I have seen that there are other objects, like this one. For example a "pendulum".

Does someone know more about this Märklin article?
Was it exclusivly made for shops only?

/Bertil

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- since my lack in english I don't write so much here.. but learn by trying right? :) -

//Bertil
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#2 Posted : 12 January 2015 00:35:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Herrfleck Go to Quoted Post
Hello!

I visted a toy museum near my home town. They have a lot of Märklin trains.

I have been there for a couple of times and there is always something new!

This time it was very special, I have only seen it in pictures before.

It's fully functional and the owner of the museum demonstrated it!

He also told me the story behind this particular wheel. It has been owned by a bicycle shop that also sold Märklin, and the museum had rescued it from being thrown right into the garbage when the building that held it was gonna be renovated.

I have seen that there are other objects, like this one. For example a "pendulum".

Does someone know more about this Märklin article?
Was it exclusivly made for shops only?

/Bertil



It looks like the sort of thing that Marklin may have supplied for advertising purposes when they were actively promoting Marklin Metall, rather like the signals and display signs in another couple of threads here.

Good catch by the museum though.

Offline Herrfleck  
#3 Posted : 12 January 2015 06:07:37(UTC)
Herrfleck

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Hello!

There is M track inside the wheel and a BR 89 Märklin 3000 runing inside it!!

Bertil
- since my lack in english I don't write so much here.. but learn by trying right? :) -

//Bertil
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Offline Shamu  
#4 Posted : 12 January 2015 06:14:51(UTC)
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LOL, so obvious now that you mention it Bertil.

Surprised that I didn't notice it before. Blushing
Sad when its cheaper to buy a new 29640 starter set from Germany than a CS2 on its own in Oz, welcome to the joys of Marklin down under .
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Offline pederbc  
#5 Posted : 12 January 2015 07:54:27(UTC)
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Hi Bertil,

Can it possibly be the toy museum in Eslöv?

/Peder
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Offline xxup  
#6 Posted : 12 January 2015 08:14:42(UTC)
xxup

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Most definitely.. I am not sure I remember seeing the wheel there when I was last at Eslov two years ago.. Maybe it was in the downstairs section that was not officially open at the time?
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Offline Br502362  
#7 Posted : 12 January 2015 08:27:09(UTC)
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Hi,

Tischbahn has a article written from this wonderful item!

WUNDERRAD

BR

Åke

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Offline pederbc  
#8 Posted : 12 January 2015 09:42:13(UTC)
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Offline cookee_nz  
#9 Posted : 12 January 2015 11:01:15(UTC)
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I remember reading an article in the past couple of years about a Restaurant somewhere in the USA, south maybe, which had one of these on display, there was a bit of a story behind how they came to acquire it.

I've searched and googled for the last wee while but I just can't find anything about it - someone else will surely know what I'm talking about and have a link?

Usually I save images and links of things like that for reference but alas, no luck
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#10 Posted : 12 January 2015 13:48:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Herrfleck Go to Quoted Post
Hello!

There is M track inside the wheel and a BR 89 Märklin 3000 runing inside it!!

Bertil


That would be fun, getting M track bent like that Blink

Mind you, that only increases the marklin heritage that it was done as an advertising sign.

Has anyone translated the label at the bottom? It is obviously talking about the 3000 loco ...
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Offline Br502362  
#11 Posted : 12 January 2015 14:32:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Herrfleck Go to Quoted Post
Hello!

There is M track inside the wheel and a BR 89 Märklin 3000 runing inside it!!

Bertil


That would be fun, getting M track bent like that Blink

Mind you, that only increases the marklin heritage that it was done as an advertising sign.

Has anyone translated the label at the bottom? It is obviously talking about the 3000 loco ...


*TRANSLATION*

"This big wheel is driven by little angry 3000 locomotive - a proof for Märklin locomotives pulling force"

Regards

Åke
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#12 Posted : 12 January 2015 14:56:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Br502362 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Herrfleck Go to Quoted Post
Hello!

There is M track inside the wheel and a BR 89 Märklin 3000 runing inside it!!

Bertil


That would be fun, getting M track bent like that Blink

Mind you, that only increases the marklin heritage that it was done as an advertising sign.

Has anyone translated the label at the bottom? It is obviously talking about the 3000 loco ...


*TRANSLATION*

"This big wheel is driven by little angry 3000 locomotive - a proof for Märklin locomotives pulling force"

Regards

Åke


Ah, thanks, now what could it do with zepplin in there ... Blink


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Offline cookee_nz  
#13 Posted : 12 January 2015 18:39:48(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Br502362 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Herrfleck Go to Quoted Post
Hello!

There is M track inside the wheel and a BR 89 Märklin 3000 runing inside it!!

Bertil


That would be fun, getting M track bent like that Blink

Mind you, that only increases the marklin heritage that it was done as an advertising sign.

Has anyone translated the label at the bottom? It is obviously talking about the 3000 loco ...


*TRANSLATION*

"This big wheel is driven by little angry 3000 locomotive - a proof for Märklin locomotives pulling force"

Regards

Åke


Ah, thanks, now what could it do with zepplin in there ... Blink




You'd need a bigger wheel or a Banana Zeppelin. But you could run a 3071 TEE around the outside, many of those are banana's already LOL LOL

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Offline Herrfleck  
#14 Posted : 12 January 2015 19:18:02(UTC)
Herrfleck

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Hello!

Thanks for all information.

Yes Peder and Adrian it is Eslöv toy museum.

There is a lot more Märklin and layout than 2 years ago.

Bertil
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//Bertil
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Offline mike c  
#15 Posted : 13 January 2015 05:58:11(UTC)
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I saw one of these a few years ago at the National Toy Train Museum in Strasburg/Lancaster, PA
http://www.nttmuseum.org...1/fullsize/newandold.jpg

Nearby is the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania with lots of former PRR and other locos, coaches and cars.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline Markus Schild  
#16 Posted : 14 January 2015 13:44:44(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi Bertil,

Thank you for the picture.

The wheel was available from Märklin from 1956 until the 1960s. It was the most successful shop - window - display model of theses days. I know about ten surviving examples. And I don't know all.
The wheel uses mostly buy-able parts but some cams, the electrical parts and the bearings were only made for this model. The cover of the top-light is a part of a 0-gauge pre-war turntable. The rails are Modellgleis series 3900 which have small cuts every ~5cm to bend them.


I attach some photos of the parts and the official press picture:

sonderteile1_600.jpg
sonderteile2_600.jpg
sonderteile3_600.jpg

0100_Wunderrad (Gross).jpg

Regards

Markus

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Offline Falconrep  
#17 Posted : 19 February 2015 16:28:59(UTC)
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This was great, I saw one in person last fall at a train Museum in Darmstadt Nord. The Museum was great, Steam, Diesel etc. Even had a turntable with train shed that looked like an old Marklin one I have. If you are ever near Frankfurt you can catch a train to it. when you get off the train its right across the tracks, though you have to walk down and around as the entrance is on the opposite side.
The person that gave us a tour was amazing. He not only provided a great tour in German and English, at the end he took us all the way to another town to catch the last steam train ride of the season.
Thomas Wondrock
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Offline drstapes  
#18 Posted : 19 February 2015 22:41:20(UTC)
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Hi,
That's a really nice model. I assume it is pre-war? Wish I had a museum like that!
regards
Geoff
Regards

Geoff (UK)

marklin HO from the 50's and 60's
Offline Dangermouse  
#19 Posted : 24 February 2015 22:42:22(UTC)
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The sad part is wondering how many of these weren't rescued by a museum or individual. Mind you, I also wonder how many people will find one in Grandad's attic. It's astonishing what turns up sometimes!
You can never have too many Silberlinge
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Offline cookee_nz  
#20 Posted : 25 February 2015 09:51:36(UTC)
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It would be quite fun to try to re-create one.

** Update 2018 - be careful what you wish for - who could have known!! **

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Offline Dangermouse  
#21 Posted : 25 February 2015 14:25:30(UTC)
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It probably wouldn't be too hard to make the unique parts, given a lathe and a pillar drill.

In fact you could probably have some of them made with a CNC mill or a laser cutter. If you weren't bothered about the side railings being metal you could have them 3D printed. Once you have the files to feed to your mill or cutter then you could assemble kits and sell them to anyone else looking to build their own, although I bet those railings would also be popular with people building their own Metall models.

Buying the rest of it would be seriously expensive though, even if you took the obvious approach of buying up odd lots of heavily used Metall parts and repainting the ones you plan to use. I've assembled a few classic Lego Technic sets that way and you always end up spending more on the last few parts than you did on the "1kg lot of old Lego" that provided most of it!
You can never have too many Silberlinge
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Offline Tomgi  
#22 Posted : 26 February 2015 14:28:39(UTC)
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I think I need to go to Eslöv...
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