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Offline Chris6382chris  
#1 Posted : 01 January 2015 20:12:11(UTC)
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Chris6382chris

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Happy New Year everyone. I am trying to animate my engine facility and I want to install a servo motor and I want to use an existing Switchpilot to control it.

I have extensive knowledge using the Switchpilot 51800 to control my Marklin switches. I have installed 12 of them and they control 48 switches perfectly. Well the 51800 Switchpilot also has two slots for Servo motors to be plugged into and controlled from. As I have read the literature that came with the Switchpilot from ESU, the Switchpilot can control 4 two way solenoids and two servo motors.

And this is when the problem begins. I know how to program the Switchpilot for the switches. For example, number 12 Switchpilot, controls switches 45,46,47, and 48. I know how to press the button on the Switchpilot until it flashes and then activate the first switch so it reads it. For example, I can see on the ECOS2 (12:1,12:2,12:3,12:4) when I added switches 45-49.

My understanding after reading the manual for the Switchpilot is that 12:5 and 12:6 should control the servo motors. However, when I type in address 49, it becomes 13:1 and their is no 13th Switchpilot.

So I have a couple questions. Am I wrong about assuming that the Switchpilot can operate 4 switches and 2 servos? And if I am correct, can someone please help me on how to program the Switchpilot so it can operate the Servo, I know I am missing something simple but I can't figure it out.

Thanks in advance.
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Offline French_Fabrice  
#2 Posted : 01 January 2015 22:15:29(UTC)
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Hi Chris, and Happy new Year !

I've no expertise on using switchPilot (I'm only using switchPilot Servo V2), but having read the doc of the 51800, I understand that this device is able to manage 4 turnouts AND 2 servos.

See chapter 8.4.1 for programming the first 4 switches, and chapter 8.4.2 for programming the 2 servos.

What I understand from the doc (SwitchPilot 3rd edition Oct. 2008) is:
1) When you program the first 4 switches using the programming button, you don't automatically program the 2 servos at the 2 next consecutive addresses. Furthermore, the 2 servos are disabled at factory (CV36=8)
2) To program the servos, You need explicitly to press on the programming button according to chapter 8.4.2 : Beware! the duration of pressure on the prog. button seems to be longer (4 sec.) than for the 4 switches (2 sec.), and the blinking sequence is not the same...

or if you have a lokprogrammer, it may be easier...

I'm pretty sure you were confused by the duration of pressure on prog. button which is different for servos...

I hope I've told you true infos (but it's only based on my reading, not on my real experience)

Cheers
Fabrice
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Offline Chris6382chris  
#3 Posted : 01 January 2015 22:19:19(UTC)
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Chris6382chris

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Hi Fabrice. I hope all is well in France. I have enjoyed looking at your layout by the way. Really great work.

Regarding the information on the switchpilots you have provided, I will check CV 36 and seeif it is set to value 8. Also, I will pay attention to the programming sequence. I have been reading all of the manuals but I missed this info. Thanks for the help. I will let you know if this works.

Chris
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Offline Chris6382chris  
#4 Posted : 01 January 2015 23:37:48(UTC)
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Chris6382chris

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Update - Still having no luck. I just can't figure out how to access the additional addresses for the Servo's on the Switch Pilot (Thanks Fabrice for the suggestions but I am having no luck still). If any of you have used the two Servo outputs on a Switchpilot V2.0 I would appreciate it if you could walk me through the steps on how you set it up.

I am using an ECOS 2. I have plenty of experience with setting up the Switchpilot V2 to control switch motors but am stumped regarding the Servos.

Thanks.
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Offline French_Fabrice  
#5 Posted : 02 January 2015 00:23:30(UTC)
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Chris,

Are you able using the ECOSII to directly read and write CVs ? If yes, plug the SwitchPilot on the programming track and read then write the adequate CVs values.
If, for instance you want your 2 servos mapped on addresses 49 & 50 (i.e. 13.1 and 13.2) you should write 13 in CV35 and 0 in CV36.

Good luck
Fabrice
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Offline Goofy  
#6 Posted : 02 January 2015 04:05:39(UTC)
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I know servo motor do only draw current about 5-6 volts.
Not sure if this should check after too in the decoder before to program?
ESU do have switch pilot servo too with current draw at 5-6 volts for the servo motor.
Switch pilot do have an special knob to choise similar like k83,k84 or DCC too.
I can´t find information if switch pilot should stand in DCC by use servo motor.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
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Offline mihirpadhye  
#7 Posted : 15 June 2017 20:50:29(UTC)
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mihirpadhye

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Hi Chris,

Any luck there in getting servo outputs operational. I am also facing the same issue.

Regards
Mihir
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