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Offline Jefferson  
#1 Posted : 15 September 2005 21:52:23(UTC)
Jefferson

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I should probably already know this, but I don't.

I have various freight and passenger cars with couplers that are incompatible (Relex couplers and whatever the newer ones are called (Telex?). In the catalog NEM 360 and NEM 362 are mentioned. Are these standards for coupler pockets and how do you tell the difference? Also, who set the standards? I would like to know so that I might purchase the correct ones for my rolling stock. Thanks.


Jeff
Offline Sander van Wijk  
#2 Posted : 15 September 2005 22:18:52(UTC)
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First, Telex couplers are the remote controlled couplers on some locos. The newer couplers (partly) replacing the Relex ones are called Short couplers.

NEM stands for Norm Europäischer Modellbahnen, simply translated this means Standards for European Model Railroads. There's a list of these NEM's on http://www.miba.de/morop/
But since it's in German here are the descriptions of the NEM 360 and 362

NEM 360: This is a standardcoupler for H0, quite similar to the Relex couplers. This standard only applies for the coupler head, so not for the way it is attached to the car.
NEM 362: This is the standard for the socket ("schacht") of the couplers. Sometimes called KK-Kulisse. (Which has of course nothing to do with strange guys in white dresses... wink KKK stands for Kurz Kupplungs Kulisse, something like a short couplers socket) On most of Märklins newer not-Hobby material this NEM 362 is used. The couplers compatible to this standard are attached with a connection that looks like the tail of a swallow. I hope you understand what I mean.

(Buying material complying with NEM 362 makes quite sure you can attach Märklin couplers to it)
Sander
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Offline McLae  
#3 Posted : 16 September 2005 00:01:22(UTC)
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The NEM 362 is a standard socket. Any compatible coupler can be replaced with another compatible coupler.
Most new cars come with this socket. Several non-marklin cars come with the couplers in the parts bag, sometimes two types. You have to attach the couplers yourself.

I like the Roco 40351 couplers myself. Hard to uncouple be accident, and with adjustable heights.

Look in the Marklin catalog in the spare parts section. Compare 7205, 7203 and 72060.
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Offline Sander van Wijk  
#4 Posted : 16 September 2005 00:49:30(UTC)
Sander van Wijk

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Ah... Socket... that's the word I was looking for earlier while writing my reply. I called it shafs... OOPS I've edited it.
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Offline Jefferson  
#5 Posted : 16 September 2005 17:19:23(UTC)
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Thanks to both for the clear explanations. It is frustrating to have rolling stock with incompatible couplers. I have a new project to work on.
Jeff
Offline stephenbb  
#6 Posted : 16 September 2005 17:22:11(UTC)
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Very informative!
Thanks for the info.
Stephen(USA)
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Offline Munich 1860  
#7 Posted : 16 September 2005 17:36:48(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Jefferson
<br />Thanks to both for the clear explanations. It is frustrating to have rolling stock with incompatible couplers. I have a new project to work on.
Jeff,

no need to be frustrated !!! Just think back to those days which are only 20 years ago or so, when there was no compatibility between different companies' cars AT ALL !!! So we are much better off now, how complicated things might seem at first glance.

For additional reading I recomend to get last years' Märklin Magazin issues, surely cheap on Ebay. There I found tremendously interesting articles on how to install short couplings and their basis (sockets) into or better onto old Märklin waggons. Also all other kinds of work on couplings were explained and shown in pictures.

This would surely cheer you up !!!

Regards,

Johann
I like M-track and my things that run on it were built between 1959 and 1972.
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