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Oliver nagel		#1 Posted : 15 May 2014 03:35:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/12/2012(UTC) Posts: 121 Location: Allegany		Today I got in the mail a new old stock Br 103 3358 the red one. I took the body off and the has a nice 5 pole armature motor a electronic reverse relay. I want to convert the lok to digital so I need a new magnet. I have nice Esu decoder V4.0 I just need the magnet part number. Thank you


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3rail4life		#2 Posted : 15 May 2014 04:55:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 426 Location: Northern California		The ESU Hamo magnet # 51962 or the Märklin #235690 are the ones to use with the existing motor parts. I was think of trying this myself, as I was wondering how well LoPi 4.0 would work with the old 5* analog motor converted to DC, sounds interesting... Gordon

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Bigdaddynz		#3 Posted : 15 May 2014 05:37:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		All the part numbers for these types of conversions are listed in this (sticky) topic in the Digital forum. https://www.marklin-user...nversion-of-M-locos.aspx You could also use the 60941 motor kit for a full 5 pole motor upgrade, but the HAMO magnet will work reasonably well. I converted my 3358 with a 60760 kit, which works quite well.
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river6109		#4 Posted : 15 May 2014 08:00:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Oliver, unless the loco has been converted at some stage, there is nothing to suggest this loco came with a 5 pole motor, if we talk about a 3558 than we can include the 5 pole motor as a standard motor. changing the 5 pole motor with an ESU magnet should do the job as the 5 pole motor has the same diameter as a 3 pole motor. you most probably find paying a few more dollars as Dave mentioned a 60760 (with decoder) or 60941 conversion set (without decoder around the US$ 36.00-39.00. your ESU decoder version 4 would be ideal for the conversion set, especially at the lowest speed level. John
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RayF		#5 Posted : 15 May 2014 08:59:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Hi Oliver, Remember to change the light bulbs to the correct ones for digital. The 33xx locos were equiped from factory with low voltage bulbs (~3V?) and I've blown up a few in the process of digital conversions!
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Oliver nagel		#6 Posted : 15 May 2014 15:18:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/12/2012(UTC) Posts: 121 Location: Allegany		I looked though old posts found for part information on the 3358 didn't find any. I took some pictures so you know what I mean. Oliver nagel attached the following image(s):

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3rail4life		#7 Posted : 15 May 2014 16:31:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 426 Location: Northern California		Hi Oliver, Thanks for posting the pictures, nice model, I have the same loco, but it is the 3558. According to Märklins parts lists both the 3358 & 3558 came with the 610030 five pole armature originally, which is unusual for a 33xx series loco. parts lists or : http://www.maerklin.de/s...1&artikelnummer=3358 I think you will be ok with those bulbs, they may be a bit bright so you may want to dim them or change to 600800's. Funny Ray should mention the low voltage bulbs, I just blew one up the other day with an analog trafo testing it, I felt pretty dumb for forgetting about that. Cheers, Gordon

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