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Offline s_christos  
#1 Posted : 14 February 2014 16:30:15(UTC)
s_christos


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Location: Hutton, UK
I bought recently a used loco from the 80s. Although the outside of the loco was in good shape, the inside was really dirty, especially at the gears.

I tried to clean the gears with some paper to no avail. I then tried to spray some WD40 on them and I was amazed buy the amount of dirt that was removed. Following the spraying I used some paper to clean all areas from excess WD40 and I put the loco to test.

Unfortunately the loco was spinning all the time and I thought that I destroyed something. After some thought I realized that the reason for the spin was the traction wheels that were full of WD40 and they were loosing traction from the rails.

I then cleaned the wheels and put the loco close to a radiator for the excess WD40 to dry out.
I tested the loco the next day (after putting a drop of oil on the gears) and the loco was running perfectly.

Bottom line. WD40 worked perfectly for me on that specific loco.

Do you have any similar experience with WD40 or any other cleaner?
Offline biedmatt  
#2 Posted : 14 February 2014 16:36:51(UTC)
biedmatt

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I used to use it as a degreaser for my season ending cleanup on my Ducatis. It cuts through grease and other petroleum based gunk without the worry of corrosion.
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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Offline Oliver nagel  
#3 Posted : 14 February 2014 17:19:58(UTC)
Oliver nagel

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I just got a 1960s A series DR 800 Diesel Railcar that was siezed I took the motor out sprayed it with WD 40,wiped off the excess cleaned it with rubbing alcohol, oiled spun the motor by hand it and it runs like its band new.BigGrin
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Offline kbvrod  
#4 Posted : 14 February 2014 17:28:01(UTC)
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Offline Paul59  
#5 Posted : 14 February 2014 18:48:51(UTC)
Paul59

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WD40 is excellent for cleaning gears and general muck etc. but be careful with it.
If using it on the motor make sure it is all cleaned out afterwards - I have known it to soften the carbon brushes (coals) which can lead to problems with the commutator (collector) fouling up later.

I have also accidentally got some on the traction tiles of my BR118 - I had cleaned a bit of track with it and must have left some on there. The traction tyres came off the wheels soon afterwards and when I went to put them back on I found they had swelled up to a larger size and so were useless - they were about 4mm bigger than the wheels!
I had a similar problem when using it to clean the components of a carburettor once - the o rings swelled up and had to be replaced.

I generally use methylated spirits (wood alcohol I believe) to clean both mechanisms and motors including the brushes and have not had any problems. It evaporates completely away afterwards leaving the parts clean and ready for oiling in the usual way.

WD40 is an excellent product but please be careful where you use it.

Paul
Marklin HO using M track. Now reverted to analogue as I find it has more character and is more fun...... and I understand it!
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Offline mrmarklin  
#6 Posted : 14 February 2014 20:05:45(UTC)
mrmarklin

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Originally Posted by: s_christos Go to Quoted Post
I bought recently a used loco from the 80s. Although the outside of the loco was in good shape, the inside was really dirty, especially at the gears.

I tried to clean the gears with some paper to no avail. I then tried to spray some WD40 on them and I was amazed buy the amount of dirt that was removed. Following the spraying I used some paper to clean all areas from excess WD40 and I put the loco to test.

Unfortunately the loco was spinning all the time and I thought that I destroyed something. After some thought I realized that the reason for the spin was the traction wheels that were full of WD40 and they were loosing traction from the rails.

I then cleaned the wheels and put the loco close to a radiator for the excess WD40 to dry out.
I tested the loco the next day (after putting a drop of oil on the gears) and the loco was running perfectly.

Bottom line. WD40 worked perfectly for me on that specific loco.

Do you have any similar experience with WD40 or any other cleaner?


I don't think WD 40 is really a de greaser.

I have used RC Car cleaner (for the motors) to clean my loks. That will really clear out everything. BUT you need to then re-oil everything as this dries out all.

From the People's Republik of Kalifornia
Offline ealab  
#7 Posted : 15 February 2014 20:58:20(UTC)
ealab


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Location: SOUTHERN FINLAND, PAIMIO
Hello!

Better? material may be CRC´s Brake Cleaner, or Brakleen. Works well with mechanical purges. It is to take care of ventilation, respiratory protection.

Sincerely/Terve vaan!
ealab
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Offline kbvrod  
#8 Posted : 15 February 2014 21:08:16(UTC)
kbvrod

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Hi all,
White vinegar works well,...

Dr D
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Offline Webmaster  
#9 Posted : 15 February 2014 21:31:39(UTC)
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I've used WD40 for cleaning up gunk & hardened oil in gears with great results, of course after removing the motor parts.

Had a very hard case of gunked/hardened oil with a certain loco some year(s) ago, even had to tap the wheels/axles many times to get them loose..
Patience was of virtue here, but the WD40 did its job as a cleaner. Have never used brake fluid, so I don't know how good that is...
I was quite happy with the result, and I hope it still runs well with the forum member who now has it - somewhere in Aussie land...
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Old Chinese Proverb]
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Offline nevw  
#10 Posted : 15 February 2014 22:06:04(UTC)
nevw

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Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
Running like a well oiled Sewing Machine or as a near New Maerklin should. Lovely

ThumpUpRollEyes
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Offline ealab  
#11 Posted : 16 February 2014 07:30:57(UTC)
ealab


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Location: SOUTHERN FINLAND, PAIMIO
Hello!

The brake fluid could only paint removal! Said CRC´s are effective spray cleaning solvents. The locomotive slower rotating metal axles, cogs. Now to test the car´s steering gear grease. It is a very supple, smooth and good pressure resistance. "The bearings and teeth seem to thank" :)!
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Offline Tom Jessop  
#12 Posted : 16 February 2014 09:04:57(UTC)
Tom Jessop

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Location: Newcastle NSW Australia


WD40 is fishoil. We have a good friend of many years whose farther used to use WD40 on his arthritic joints for pain relief, worked a treat to the point of the nursing home where he lived out his last years used to offer it to other patients for the same problem

Cheers Tom in Oz.
Offline NZMarklinist  
#13 Posted : 17 February 2014 05:29:45(UTC)
NZMarklinist

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Posts: 1,757
Location: Auckland NZ
A friend of mine here uses WD40 for cleaning up old M Track, leaves it soaking for a week or so.Uses a soft brass brush to scrub them
Then flushes them with White Spirits, (raw petrol used in old lanterns and pressurised camping stoves, but also by many engine builders as a cleaner !)
This process has resulted in many thousands of dollars worth sold on local, NZ,trademe, and he presented our Marklin Club with over $1000.00 for sales of our old M Track, sold in the last year, at our recent AGM, so it does work as a gunk cleaner.
I've seen adds here, saying WD40 was invented by NASA to stop their old rocket parts from rusting Wink ThumpUp
Glen
Auckland NZ

" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !

CS1 Reloaded, Touch Cab, C Track Modules, K track layout all under construction. Currently Insider
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Offline RayF  
#14 Posted : 17 February 2014 14:42:41(UTC)
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I find WD40 very effective on dirty axles which are causing bad grounding to the loco. A few of drops of WD40, delivered through an old oil bottle so it doesn't go all over the tyres, dissolves the gunk on the axles and restores electrical connection.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline BrandonVA  
#15 Posted : 17 February 2014 15:25:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Have never used brake fluid, so I don't know how good that is...


For those interested in brake fluid, please note it will remove paint. Brake parts cleaner is a bit safer, but still very abrasive.

-Brandon
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Offline ealab  
#16 Posted : 17 February 2014 20:58:14(UTC)
ealab


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Location: SOUTHERN FINLAND, PAIMIO
Of course, the brake fluid is only reguired the removal of paint. Mentioned in the CRC brands Brakleen and Quickleen are fat-free, fast-drying, do not damage the items. Clean and remowe fat effectively.
The WD-40 is a product similar to the CRC Penetrating oil. Are (rust) remowe and protective oils.

ealab
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