29486 Set, which 120V Power Supply?

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mike c		#1 Posted : 07 January 2014 05:29:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,899 Location: Montreal, QC		I have my 29486 Set. I still have to pick it up and bring it into Canada. I wanted to know which is the correct power supply: http://www.eurorailhobbi...20supply&stock=60055 http://www.eurorailhobbi...20supply&stock=66365 From what I understand, the 60055 has an AC output (16VAC) The 66365 has a 18VDC output. Will either work with the MS2 included with the Startset? Is there an advantage to one or the other? Thanks and regards Mike C

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Bigdaddynz		#2 Posted : 07 January 2014 06:48:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Yes, either will work, but the Switched Mode Power Pack has stabilised power output, which means that as the load on the power supply increases, the power supply maintains the correct voltage output, whereas voltage will drop with using the 60055 at maximum load. There is no advantage in using the 50va 60055 instead of the 30va 66365 to get greater power output, as the MS2 maximum output of 1.9 amps is governed by the grey track connection box - the 30va power supply will be sufficient for that.
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mike c		#3 Posted : 07 January 2014 08:07:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,899 Location: Montreal, QC		Thanks for the reply. I guess I will order the adapter plug. I do have one (or two) additional question(s): The MS2 and most recent mfx are designed to work with DC power. Older Motorola digital loks use DC as carrier wave for the digital signal, but some still use the AC for power. How will those loks work with the new digital system? Is there a risk of the motor heating up more than it should? I am thinking about my old 3638 and some of the delta loks. My other question concerns the locomotive card. None of my other fx/mfx loks have come with a card. Do I need to create cards for them or is that just a gimmick? Are there any other precautions when using coaches with interior lighting with the MS2/CS2? Thanks Mike C


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H0		#4 Posted : 07 January 2014 08:24:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		All digital decoders drive all motors with DC. The current on the track is the same with AC or DC power supplies as all digital controllers contain rectifiers and run on DC internally. It should be noted that 16 V AC result in a higher track voltage than 18 V DC. Higher track voltage can lead to faster locos and more smoke from smoke generators, but also to hotter motors and brushes that wear faster (more sparks between brushes and collector). Loco cards are an option (plug'n'play for fx starter set locos).
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3rail4life		#5 Posted : 07 January 2014 08:57:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 426 Location: Northern California		Hi Mike, Back to your original question, I would use whichever power supply comes with the set, if you prefer the 120V model, go with 66365. The power supply pictured in your second link is not it, but most likely 66361 Euro plug model, which works great too. If you get the 66365 you will not need an adapter. The Lok cards are handy if you have a lot fx locos, once you fill up the MS2 with 40 locos you may find them useful. Cheers, Gordon

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mike c		#6 Posted : 08 January 2014 03:50:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,899 Location: Montreal, QC		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Yes, either will work, but the Switched Mode Power Pack has stabilised power output, which means that as the load on the power supply increases, the power supply maintains the correct voltage output, whereas voltage will drop with using the 60055 at maximum load. There is no advantage in using the 50va 60055 instead of the 30va 66365 to get greater power output, as the MS2 maximum output of 1.9 amps is governed by the grey track connection box - the 30va power supply will be sufficient for that. Other than the fact that the 60055 can also be used to power accessories, is there any advantage to having the older transformer rather than the plug-in adapter? If the new adapter is only to be used to power the MS2, how would you power accessories (lights, signals, etc)? Regards Mike C


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