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Offline klarinettmeister  
#1 Posted : 25 December 2013 17:19:14(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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Hi all!

Today I unpacked my 26495 and what did I find?

As you can see the door ends on both sides on one car weren´t present in my box.

I think it´s a shame. I hade some problems with my other PA-1 train, 26490, where the signs weren´t glued correctly. That´s not resolved yet... And also I had a problem with the 37624 and I corrected it by changing motors with another unit. Also there was one car that didn´t light up. This was due to the lighting bar was loose in the car. There has been to many issues with Märklin.

I´ve emailed my shop and asked them to let Märklin send the 2 missing parts and also boxed the train again. I really hope I don´t need to send the train back. But I´ll do it if I have to. I might get an answer the day after tomorrow.

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#2 Posted : 25 December 2013 18:47:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Hi all!

Today I unpacked my 26495 and what did I find?

As you can see the door ends on both sides on one car weren´t present in my box.

I think it´s a shame. I hade some problems with my other PA-1 train, 26490, where the signs weren´t glued correctly. That´s not resolved yet... And also I had a problem with the 37624 and I corrected it by changing motors with another unit. Also there was one car that didn´t light up. This was due to the lighting bar was loose in the car. There has been to many issues with Märklin.

I´ve emailed my shop and asked them to let Märklin send the 2 missing parts and also boxed the train again. I really hope I don´t need to send the train back. But I´ll do it if I have to. I might get an answer the day after tomorrow.



I find it difficult to believe that that carriage arrived in the box without anyone noticing the missing parts.
The whole attitude of supplying an incomplete product and then expecting you to wait for repair work is totally unacceptable.

I'd be returning it and asking for my money back, including the freight.

Glare
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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 25 December 2013 19:08:40(UTC)
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One forum member got a Swiss crocodile without front windows, I once got a BR 101 model without handrails and a BR 85 model without couplers.
The person that puts the items into the box should notice flaws like that I would think.

Probably it happens with less than 1 out of 1000 boxes.

Flickering lights due to contact problems are more likely to occur - but also should not happen at the price level of these strictly limited series.
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Tom
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#4 Posted : 25 December 2013 19:21:49(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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Originally Posted by: Mulldog Lemon Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Hi all!

Today I unpacked my 26495 and what did I find?

As you can see the door ends on both sides on one car weren´t present in my box.

I think it´s a shame. I hade some problems with my other PA-1 train, 26490, where the signs weren´t glued correctly. That´s not resolved yet... And also I had a problem with the 37624 and I corrected it by changing motors with another unit. Also there was one car that didn´t light up. This was due to the lighting bar was loose in the car. There has been to many issues with Märklin.

I´ve emailed my shop and asked them to let Märklin send the 2 missing parts and also boxed the train again. I really hope I don´t need to send the train back. But I´ll do it if I have to. I might get an answer the day after tomorrow.



I find it difficult to believe that that carriage arrived in the box without anyone noticing the missing parts.
The whole attitude of supplying an incomplete product and then expecting you to wait for repair work is totally unacceptable.

I'd be returning it and asking for my money back, including the freight.

Glare


I haven´t paid for it yet. BigGrin

I think that if it were an Hobby model it wouldn´t be that big of a deal. But now it´s a quite expensive model and also a limited as such. The shop is still closed tomorrow. :-(
Offline steventrain  
#5 Posted : 25 December 2013 21:12:29(UTC)
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Very sorry about the parts missing. Marklin is always double checking on items before ship out to dealers.

Maybe some shop owner removed parts etc out of sets, Remember next time you must always check there is no missing before you buy.

I always buys from lokshop/station500 etc since 2003 and no sign of missing parts.ThumpUp
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Offline jeehring  
#6 Posted : 26 December 2013 13:12:34(UTC)
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the "missing-parts" today is a recurring problem for all manufacturers.
If you knew ...how big is the problem with the others ! !
in comparison with other manufacturers, Marklin is far less affected by this problem.

That said, I see through different dealers, they often get broken products because of a wrong packaging.
Recently I saw whole series of BR 80 # 37043 with broken telex fork . And it happened when placing the LOK in the box.
The fun is that there is a warning for the attention of the user & the mention is : be careful with Telex coupler when unpacking the Locomotive + the image of a broken telex , one peak from the telex fork is missing (cut or broken) !
One might even think that the person in charge of packing (or someone else) would have cut the fork of telex voluntarily in accordance with the picture !
And this picture only show a telex with one peak instead of two, without any particular sign !
It shows the front telex . .... and only front telex(s) are affected ...Blink RollEyes

HI Marklin : who is in charge of packing the Locomotive models in their box ?
Do they know the world of train model ? Are they profesionnals ? ...or temporary workers ?

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Offline jeehring  
#7 Posted : 26 December 2013 13:21:53(UTC)
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Hi David,
keep well your "BLue Bird" # 26490. Valuable and beautiful item.
It is the best of both (26490/26495).
However the Locomotive from 26495 is really really nice!
Offline kbvrod  
#8 Posted : 26 December 2013 18:26:28(UTC)
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Hi David,all,
Why do I want vomit?Laugh David,my response would be,not to pay for the set until those spare parts were in your hot hands.Second ask the dealer what the deal is,either your postage or dealers is going to a deal breaker,if the set has to be returned.

My worthless thoughts,....


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Offline jeehring  
#9 Posted : 26 December 2013 19:13:22(UTC)
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David,
What do you think about the yellow stripes and the clumsy/awkward/unskillful guys who were in charge of printing & painting ?...Specially about their supervisor Mister "I Don't Care" ?
Cursing

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#10 Posted : 10 January 2014 02:11:52(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
David,
What do you think about the yellow stripes and the clumsy/awkward/unskillful guys who were in charge of printing & painting ?...Specially about their supervisor Mister "I Don't Care" ?
Cursing


I´ve investigated the yellow stripes. They look good, I think, but it feels like the stripes to the left of the sign are a bit thinner than on the right of the sign. That is if you hold the cars in front of you.

Well ,some update. I have sent back the car to my dealer on request by them as they had other items to send back to Märklin. I hope I will see my car soon!
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Offline jeehring  
#11 Posted : 11 January 2014 16:07:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
David,
What do you think about the yellow stripes and the clumsy/awkward/unskillful guys who were in charge of printing & painting ?...Specially about their supervisor Mister "I Don't Care" ?
Cursing


I´ve investigated the yellow stripes. They look good, I think, but it feels like the stripes to the left of the sign are a bit thinner than on the right of the sign. That is if you hold the cars in front of you.

...(...)...

Not exactly David,
Have a look above the doors.
Along the entire coach the yellow stripe covers two types of material : aluminimum & plastic.

Making a beautiful painting is a real challenge. In the past Marklin always was very good in this work. Better than other manufacturers.
Here we have two different yellows on the same stripe the supervisor has not done his job.
One might think that it was done by two workers who have not concerted: one worker would have been painting / printing the aluminum body , while another one was painting or printing plastic parts (... who forgot this special way of finish with the ink, typical Marklin know how....)
No accuracy. No care. This is not acceptable, especially on Premium items .

However, the locomotive looks Great... Gorgeous....!

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Offline jeehring  
#12 Posted : 11 January 2014 17:13:06(UTC)
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...what I was talking about in my message above, is visible on your first photo in this thread (above the door).
But it is more obvious in the day light, in real ! On all coaches with plastic door ends.

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Offline jeehring  
#13 Posted : 14 January 2014 15:19:17(UTC)
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.....on your second photo, it is not so visible because the flash light crush the colors & erase the differences, we can only guess it ....
Offline mike c  
#14 Posted : 15 January 2014 06:35:08(UTC)
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It is very unfortunate that this set was delivered incomplete. You have contacted your dealer and they are returning the affected coach to Maerklin. Hopefully they will return a complete coach to you.

Jeehring was trying to bring your attention to the difference in the painted yellow stripe on the metal and on the plastic parts of the coaches, which looks a little different. This is most noticeable above the entry doors to the coach. Jeehring could have been a little more helpful and let you know whether this is a problem that was common to all of this item or whether this is another problem that is particular to your set and should be addressed as well.

Maybe you can check with your dealer and see if he has another such set that you can compare with the one that you bought.

If you want to contact Maerklin directly, you can use the service(at)maerklin.de address

Regards

Mike C


Offline jeehring  
#15 Posted : 16 January 2014 14:31:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
...(...).... Jeehring could have been a little more helpful and let you know whether this is a problem that was common to all of this item or whether this is another problem that is particular to your set and should be addressed as well.

...(...)...Mike C





As I have often said on this forum, I used to go in train stores . My comments were not made ​​from photo.
3 shops: all the sets I saw had the same defect. another friend of mine noticed the same defect as well. So I'm talking about between 10 or 12 sets. (I saw myself about 6 sets...)
This is typically a painting defect.
When we can see that it corresponds to the difference in material, it is understood that the metal surface was not painted at the same time that the plastic surface.
We may not notice it immediately or right away because only the ends are affected. But sooner or later you notice it: between 2 and 3 cm of the yellow stripes are frankly not of the same tonality .
The default is more visible in reality than in the pictures above.

It shows a lack of seriousness 1/ in the paintwork 2/ in quality control. The fact that in David's set the same plastic end part is missing on some cars, is probably not by chance....
May be only some batches are affected.
I hope some are not...but after evaluation of 10/12 sets, I doubt about it...
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