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Offline river6109  
#1 Posted : 02 November 2013 01:24:01(UTC)
river6109

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Hi,

bought myself a compact bullet video camera. the first time I've heard of this small HD video camera is from a train modeller in Switzerland and he used the camera on one of his flat car carriages trains and the sharpness was excellent

I will do the same but will also use it when I get the right RC helicopter which can carry the weight (its about 140 g) .and hopefully can use it flying along my trains over mountains etc etc. the only thing I wouldn't like, if it crashes onto my layout.

any idea what type of helicopter I should get ?

regards.,

John



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Offline waorb  
#2 Posted : 04 November 2013 18:38:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post

any idea what type of helicopter I should get ?

Hello John!

Since there are plenty a lot of models, sizes, prices, and featured ones, the few advices I could tell you is:

- Low noise (need to ask in the store or try);
- Long battery life, enough to departure, stabilize, film, and arrive safely.
- "Strong" enough to carry on the camera (also better to try in the store if it's possible) - the manufacturer probably do not prepared the model to carry something extra.
- Radio frequency model. IMHO, the most important to take care about. Do not buy Infra-red controlled ones. Fails frequently, since the heli need clear view 100% of the time between it and the remote controller.

Of course, the more features above, the higher the price...

Good luck, and choose wisely! Cool

Cheers,

Walter
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Offline river6109  
#3 Posted : 06 November 2013 01:35:43(UTC)
river6109

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Walter, great information and thanks for your help.

It will take a while, a.) to get the right helicopter, b.) to get used to it and I think more practice you can get just flying the chopper the better it will be taking videos.
c.) putting the camera onto a right angle.

I may get it by Christmas or even as a present.

John
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Offline waorb  
#4 Posted : 06 November 2013 18:13:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Walter, great information and thanks for your help.
It will take a while, a.) to get the right helicopter, b.) to get used to it and I think more practice you can get just flying the chopper the better it will be taking videos.
c.) putting the camera onto a right angle.
I may get it by Christmas or even as a present.

Hello John!

Another one, probably better than a chopper, is a "drone"... actually a four-propeller helicopter.

Some of them controlled by Androids and iPhones... (may spare another gadget - the remote controller)

Something like this one:

http://ardrone2.parrot.com/
http://ardrone2.parrot.com/i-want-it/

Cheers,

Walter
Offline river6109  
#5 Posted : 07 November 2013 11:18:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: waorb Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Walter, great information and thanks for your help.
It will take a while, a.) to get the right helicopter, b.) to get used to it and I think more practice you can get just flying the chopper the better it will be taking videos.
c.) putting the camera onto a right angle.
I may get it by Christmas or even as a present.

Hello John!

Another one, probably better than a chopper, is a "drone"... actually a four-propeller helicopter.

Some of them controlled by Androids and iPhones... (may spare another gadget - the remote controller)

Something like this one:

http://ardrone2.parrot.com/
http://ardrone2.parrot.com/i-want-it/

Cheers,

Walter


Walter, I don't have a Android or iPhone but I've seen them thanks again for your help, John

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Offline GlennM  
#6 Posted : 07 November 2013 13:45:25(UTC)
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John,

Great videos, the new camera looks great.

Over the years I have seen a few different variations on train cams, and I was wondering how effective the new Roco camera in cab locos will be. My personal experience is that a lot of cameras are too big to go around a layout, although I did once manage to run a camera in an LGB car when we had it set up in the garden, but then the second problem kicked in which is that of focus. As most cameras use infra-red to focus, there can be issues in low light, fast moving subjects and the like where the focus is unable to lock, which leads to frustration. I am assuming your new camera has a fixed focus, or can be locked to prevent the focus from searching?

I am looking forward to seeing your results, and I hope you will be able to post some in train video of your layout soon.

As for RC helicopters, all I know if they are notoriously hard to master, and we have stuck to our RC nitro off road racers, which are great fun down at the beach.

All the best

Glenn
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Offline river6109  
#7 Posted : 11 November 2013 23:37:41(UTC)
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Glenn,

Will do when I get my camera but with the RC Helicopter I'll have to try the different models out before I'll buy it.

Another thing I have to be aware of is the noise level, the idea is to hear the sound of loco and not the helicopter and the drone may be the way to go.

John
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Offline river6109  
#8 Posted : 11 November 2013 23:38:49(UTC)
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double post

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Offline river6109  
#9 Posted : 27 November 2013 13:57:40(UTC)
river6109

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the camera has finally arrived and sofar I'm pleased with the results, all I need now to do is put the modules, tracks and overhead wires together and get some videos on the road.

John
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Offline Danlake  
#10 Posted : 27 November 2013 14:25:57(UTC)
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Good news John,

I can't wait to see some video.

Rather than just putting the camera in front and run around the layout, a really nice way to make some realistic footage is to let it film another train on a double track that goes at a similar speed.

It's a mad idea you have regarding helicopter - but I like it!

Brgds - Lasse
Digital 11m2 layout / C (M&K) tracks / Era IV / CS3 60226 / Train Controller Gold 9 with 4D sound. Mainly Danish and German Locomotives.
Offline river6109  
#11 Posted : 27 November 2013 14:35:27(UTC)
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yes it will be interesting, as I said before a guy in Switzerland is using it on his layout and I was impressed.

I will remember having 2 trains running at similar speeds but it may be difficult as my tracks (most of them) don't go anywhere at the moment.

the helicopter or drone would also be a new concept to film train videos but lots of training would have to be done.

regards.,

John
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Offline GlennM  
#12 Posted : 28 November 2013 14:46:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
yes it will be interesting, as I said before a guy in Switzerland is using it on his layout and I was impressed.

I will remember having 2 trains running at similar speeds but it may be difficult as my tracks (most of them) don't go anywhere at the moment.

the helicopter or drone would also be a new concept to film train videos but lots of training would have to be done.

regards.,

John


Yes, But IMHO would look great !!!!!!

BR

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