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Offline StuartA  
#1 Posted : 09 June 2013 22:15:59(UTC)
StuartA

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I heard my from Marklin dealer that as of 1, July 2013 the Marklin offices in New Berlin, Wisconsin are closing. All Marklin business, as well as the Club, will be handled through Germany. They are also closing their LGB offices as well. Walthers will, however, continue to be the distributor of Marklin, Trix, and LGB.

I guess they feel that the North American market doesn't justify a local presence.

Stuart
Offline Markus Schild  
#2 Posted : 10 June 2013 10:06:11(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi Stuart,

I'm sure that SIMBA DICKIE sooner or later will include the MÄRKLIN - brand in their existing North American representation: http://simbatoysnorthamerica.com/

Regards

Markus
Offline petestra  
#3 Posted : 10 June 2013 12:25:12(UTC)
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Let's hope that SimbaDickie will then take over distribution too and will be a competent

group. With so many of us buying from Europe this is not surprising news. Peter
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#4 Posted : 10 June 2013 13:06:30(UTC)
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No surprise as they halfway closed it all when they gave walthers the distributorship back a few years ago. Sad news for US based Marklin fans, but the business efficiency is hard to ignore.

Now that being said, I'd have thought LGB was strong enough in the US to justify some staff or a presence. I don't know enough to comment further, but their volume has to be MUCH larger here than Marklin's

I doubt Marklin has hard data for this, but I do wonder if they were really loosing any sales due to a poor/expensive/cumbersome US presence. I would wager 90% of US based enthusiasts are now buying as (or what) they would have anyways, but mail order from Europe. The only lost sales I really envision are small items not worth shipping, the occasional bit of track, or an impulse buy when seeing something in person
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Offline Nielsenr  
#5 Posted : 10 June 2013 17:05:00(UTC)
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I asked my dealer if he has heard anything about this and he has said no.

I have been rather quiet about it, but in January 2012, I sent an email to the president/owner of Walther's politely complaining about the pricing structure here in the US compared to the MSRP in Euros and what one could buy items from Europe direct. I gave some tables showing the price differences. It could run upwards of $300 or more on expensive items. Although I never received a return response, my dealer told me my email was the talk at Walther's for a while. I told him that the pricing structure was basically forcing US Marklin buyers to buy abroad because in today's tight financial times, ever dollar matters to the consumer.

There was also a rumor that the VAT was not removed on items coming to the US and that money plus the pricing structure that was agreed upon for the US was the funding that ran Marklin USA. I don't have any supporting evidence. But since we know that Marklin USA gives technical support to customers outside of the US, it wouldn't be fair to have only US customers pay for it.

If this current rumor is true, I can only hope that pricing in the USA gets more competitive to the European market. It would be the fair thing to do for the US dealers.

John, as for LGB, during the 90's it was a real big time for LGB sales. As an ex LGB collector (I still have my trains, I just haven't bought anything new in 13 years), LGB sold like gangbusters. But then the downturn in the economy, LGB going bankrupt, bought by Marklin who went bankrupt, there hasn't been much new LGB coming out. This is now finally starting to turn around. I think I heard the only LGB person around now works for Walther's.

Let's hope for the best in all of this. If it is true, I feel sorry for Brenda, Michelle, and the others at Marklin USA.

Robert
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Offline mike c  
#6 Posted : 10 June 2013 23:34:39(UTC)
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I cannot comment on whether Maerklin was charging the MWSt (VAT) on items shipped to Walthers and overseas distributors. I can confirm that some model train manufacturers have domestic and export price lists. In some cases, the Export price (the price paid by dealers/distributors) was higher than the suggested retail price for local European customers.
If Maerklin would not pass on the VAT rebate as part of the cost to the foreign distributor, this would present the company with an additional 19% profit on each item sold, as they surely would claim the deduction/refund on their end.
If I remember correctly, large orders that were placed directly from Goeppingen when shops could order direct did include the VAT discount. Smaller orders of parts that I have made over the past few years included the VAT but were not taxed on import due to the small size of the shipment.

Regards

Mike C
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Offline biedmatt  
#7 Posted : 11 June 2013 04:59:23(UTC)
biedmatt

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Without Märklin USA, all we have is Walthers. God help us.
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
Offline mike c  
#8 Posted : 11 June 2013 09:40:09(UTC)
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Marklin USA began as a joint venture between Walthers and Maerklin. Most of the staff had previously been with Walthers and some have assumed other tasks at Walthers since distribution was brought back in house. Closing Marklin USA allows Simba Dickie to take over the marketing although it is likely that Walthers will continue to distribute the product for the time being. I do not have any clue how this will impact on the servicing of Maerklin product bought from authorized dealers.

Regards

Mike C
Offline SCWHIPPLE  
#9 Posted : 11 June 2013 22:50:59(UTC)
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I think if Marklin USA or Simba DIckie or Walthers would just hire someone for their website that actually likes Marklin products, then things would be a lot better. The Marklin USA website was always a joke - like the worst website ever. The Walthers site just lists things by number and does not try to promote or excite anything. Fingers crossed the Simba Dickie are better at this.
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Offline artvegas  
#10 Posted : 16 June 2013 22:30:27(UTC)
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I agree the US Marklin web site is embarising. I prefer the German site.

In this day and age of global logistics there no need for a local distributor. They alwasys have the wrong items in stock. Dealers should be able to order direct from Germany.

I ordered a just intoduced new Apple product and it is being shipped by UPS direct from China to my home.

The Danish company Bang & Olufsen shut down their US warehouse five years ago and ships products to dealers direct from a distribution center in the Czech republic. They even ship orders direct to the customers home for the dealer. Spare parts arrive in two days via UPS.
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Offline mike c  
#11 Posted : 16 June 2013 22:52:18(UTC)
mike c

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There hasn't been much change to the marlin.com website since Marklin USA shut down and distribution was taken over by Walthers. They kept the site up, but have not done much in terms of updating it. Hopefully, the site will be updated like the other national Marklin sites and will be run directly from Germany, including an online shop that ships product with VAT removed. I think that Marklin could make more money by selling loks, coaches and cars online and concentrating on Start Sets and such in the Mom and Pop hobby shops and big box stores and to make sure that the distributor and dealer prices are not as exaggerated as they have been in the past.

Regards

Mike C
Offline artvegas  
#12 Posted : 18 June 2013 23:29:03(UTC)
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I received this message from Brenda at Marklin USA today in response to my question was the US office closing and move to Germany.

"This is Brenda Hensleigh responding to your e-mail to Michelle. Michelle is no longer with the company and I haven't gotten our IT man in to re-route her e-mail yet.
The information on the Märklin User's net is incorrect. Märklin, Inc. will not be closing. We are going through a restructuring and will be moving out of our current facility at the end of July. I will continue to operate the clubs, including the Digital Club. So, no worries about the Clubs being transferred to Germany."
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Offline petestra  
#13 Posted : 19 June 2013 00:45:11(UTC)
petestra

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Thanks for the info, Art. Perhaps the new parent company Simba Dickie, which has its North

American office base in Quebec, Canada, is going to have a new Märklin USA office? This could

be what Brenda means by the term "restructuring"?

PeterUnsure
Offline mattj70  
#14 Posted : 19 June 2013 16:30:55(UTC)
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When I buy new Marklin I buy from Europe, Walthers is incompetent in all aspects.

Sincerely, Matthew Jerabek
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Offline petestra  
#15 Posted : 19 June 2013 16:51:42(UTC)
petestra

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Yes, Walthers is incompetent and they do not give a rat's a@# about Märklin. I have been saying

this all along. As I said in my last post, Simba Dickie needs to concentrate on this problem and

improve service, prices and marketing in North America. Peter
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