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Mark5		#1 Posted : 22 February 2013 19:42:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,422 Location: Montreal, Canada		Hello Marklinists, Insight on advice is needed on the best place to buy replacement pantos. Some of them only have the plastic on the bottom broken. Others have springs missing. Just buying them from my local dealer for less hassles? Or is there someone in Germany that sells such parts for a better prices. Also some locos are older and may not be available with the dealer. Peace - Mark PS... Running with your pantos down should be verboten! Long live live catenary!
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Bigdaddynz		#2 Posted : 22 February 2013 21:06:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		The Lokshop are pretty good at sourcing parts from Marklin. Other than that I'd recommend your local dealer. Dion at Toottoot NZ holds a good range of spare parts, so I often get them from him.
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Yumgui		#3 Posted : 22 February 2013 22:02:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,660 Location: Paris, France		Hi Mark, A few dealers I have bought from recently that supply parts, and vintage ones too : lok-doctor (DE) : http://stores.ebay.com/lok-doctor ddtrain (NL) : http://stores.ebay.com/ddtrain tufftuffde (DE) : http://stores.ebay.com/tufftuff-Modellbahn-Shop tee-103 (DE): http://stores.ebay.com/Marklin-Ersatzteile-Shop May not have things in stock immediately, but I've put them in favorite searches and they come up regularly with the parts I need ... sooner or later. It all depends how patient you can be ^^ ;) Hope it helps, Yum
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Hoffmann		#4 Posted : 22 February 2013 23:29:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,106 Location: Guelph, Ontario		Hello Mark, Have you looked at Sommerfeldt.de ? Martin
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Mark5		#5 Posted : 23 February 2013 00:18:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,422 Location: Montreal, Canada		Originally Posted by: Hoffmann Hello Mark, Have you looked at Sommerfeldt.de ? Martin Thanks David, Yum, I'll look at lokshop and those ebay dealers and compare. I am looking to compare with the original model and prototypes to see if the pantos are correct, or if they should be changed altogether, which leads me to ask Martin: Have you changed over sets of pantos to Sommerfeldt? Personally tired of the plastic bits on the bottom breaking, and then having to buy a new panto when it still works fine. I say "having to" because it just bugs me to run it with this imperfection on the panto, or with the pantos on crooked. Like walking around with you fly undone! But seriously, I want to take photos of the trains and do video/filming so it has to look right. I have overcome feeling like I need it to be the latest most detailed model, but I want it to look right within framework that the model was either meant to be by the manufacturer, or, if modified by myself or someone else, to look more prototypical. Its all about overcoming unnecessary distractions to focus on the beauty of the locomotive or setting. Its like when I have other people and especially kids who want to comment and say,... Um... those little flowers on the model house on the mountain side aren't right, because only Edelweiss would grow there! Ok, ok...... there are limits to the obsession with "realism." But the right pantos for the right train are a must! Going to look at Sommerfeldt again, but I am not expecting bargains there.... .... yet who can argue with the quality? - Mark
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Roman		#6 Posted : 23 February 2013 00:38:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2002(UTC) Posts: 871		I have a nearly new old 3034 with a panto that has a broken base. You can't get a newer replacement that matches both the color of the base or the tone of the metal. What to do? Wait for an old New stock panto to show up on Ebay and pay nearly double what a new one can cost, replace both pantos in order to match each other (the same part number replacement as the original), or super glue the base? Just the choices to make. I went with gluing the base. The springs weren't damaged as yours are but this is the problem with older locs and finding parts to match. I like the originality but changing the pantos is like an older prototype going through rebuild. Sometimes it just has to be done. Roman


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Mark5		#7 Posted : 23 February 2013 01:32:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,422 Location: Montreal, Canada		Originally Posted by: Roman I have a nearly new old 3034 with a panto that has a broken base. You can't get a newer replacement that matches both the color of the base or the tone of the metal. What to do? Wait for an old New stock panto to show up on Ebay and pay nearly double what a new one can cost, replace both pantos in order to match each other (the same part number replacement as the original), or super glue the base? Just the choices to make. I went with gluing the base. The springs weren't damaged as yours are but this is the problem with older locs and finding parts to match. I like the originality but changing the pantos is like an older prototype going through rebuild. Sometimes it just has to be done. Roman Thanks Roman, Yes, those are the options and I would try to glue it but the broken pieces on two pantos of two different locos are missing. Although I am doubtful that the glued piece would stay for long. As for springs... In my case the springs are just missing. One of which flew off when I was adjusting it and was not to be found! I am guessing there must be a part number for a set of springs for the pantos. Does anyone know? I had a good look at the Sommerfeldt pantos... its been a while since I had looked at those and they are reasonabley prices... Seems they are the same price for a pair as Marklin are for one, and they look more robust. Has anyone had a complaint about Sommerfeldt pantos? - Mark
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mike c		#8 Posted : 23 February 2013 03:04:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,245 Location: Montreal, QC		Mark: Sommerfeldt pantos are actually the same ones that Maerklin and other companies use for many of their models. For the classic Maerklin models, prior to the 1980s, the pantographs were one of three or four designs that Maerklin manufactured in house. Sommerfeldt pantos might not include the support feet or insulation required to mount them on all locomotives. The Maerklin pantos had the plastic support feet attached and are probably the best fitting and will give your models the most authentic appearance (i.e. like the original) The pantographs (since the mid 1960s) were originally numbered 7218 (Scissors) and 7219 (Single Arm). Later models had newer designs of the single arm and an updated classic scissors panto for Era II/III Loks. Since the 1980s, most Maerklin loks have used Sommerfeldt pantos with specially designed mountings (feet) to fit the Maerklin lok. If your lok originally had a 7218 with red or brown base, but you can only find the version with green base, you may be able to find the older version on ebay, or you can compromise and use the new color, but you would have to replace both so that they match. Your best option for parts in North America would be to check with Walthers to see if they have it in stock. If, not you can check with Randy at John's Photo in Toronto. From Europe, Lokshop, Schweickhardt or Kramm might be good choices. Regards Mike C


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kbvrod		#9 Posted : 24 February 2013 18:00:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Hi all, Springs? http://www.leespring.com/browse...;isMIL=&pageNumber=1 Dr D


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