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KingBuick		#1 Posted : 20 February 2013 04:42:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 456 Location: IAD, DCA		Hi everyone. I don't know if a thread like this hasn't been done before, but here it goes. I am sure that I am one of the many Märklin users out there who wonders why M hasn't made a certain model before that another company has made, or if no other company has made that certain model before. Therefore I am starting this thread for everyone to talk about their wish lists for future trains that Märklin could make. You can even talk about variations of models, such as PRR GG1 with new livery and interior lighting, or an ALCO PA-1/ EMD F7 with a new cast and lighting and sounds. My wish list is as follows: DB Siemens Velaro D (new ICE 3) Eurostar SEPTA Silverliner series (I-V) WMATA 1000-7000 series NYC subway London Underground Münich U-Bahn Berlin S-Bahn UP Challenger AMTRAK Acela AMTRAK ACS AMTRAK Genesis diesel loco AMTRAK Amfleet FS Frecchia Rossa RENFE Japanese bullet trains Chinese bullet trains GM EMD F7 with all new features (LED interior and exterior lighting, sound coming from A+B+A units) ALCO PA-1 with all new features (LED interior and exterior lighting, sound coming from A+A units) new Mikado steam loco *Maybe* all new Union Pacific Big Boy with enhanced features Cheers! Tadeusz.
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Bigdaddynz		#2 Posted : 20 February 2013 04:48:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand		There's already been a thread on this, will see if I can find it.
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Bigdaddynz		#3 Posted : 20 February 2013 04:50:18(UTC) Retweet
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KingBuick		#4 Posted : 20 February 2013 04:52:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 456 Location: IAD, DCA		Thank you for giving me this information. I completely forgot about this thread. I understand that that thread is for 2013 models. Mine however is for models in the undetermined future. However, if you'd like to merge the threads together, then please be my guest. Cheers! Tadeusz.
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Mark5		#5 Posted : 20 February 2013 05:42:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,422 Location: Montreal, Canada		Originally Posted by: KingBuick My wish list is as follows: [.....] Berlin S-Bahn [.....] Tadeusz. Marklin 3128 - Berlin S-Bahn exists in the Hobby Line (analog), also produced as Primex. I have this, and its very robust. My girls had to point out to me that the lights are directional. One of those "Hey Daddy..." moments. Cheers, Mark Edited by user 15 April 2013 02:28:41(UTC)  | Reason: spelling
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H0		#6 Posted : 20 February 2013 08:16:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,452 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: KingBuick I understand that that thread is for 2013 models. Mine however is for models in the undetermined future. Every year there is at least one thread about future new models that people would like to see. And hardly anybody will have an "I won't buy it if it comes later than 2013" attitude. New ICE 3 was announced by Fleischmann for 2-rail and 3-rail - Märklin was too slow once again (if it becomes a success) or Fleischmann was too fast (if the model doesn't succeed).
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foumaro		#7 Posted : 20 February 2013 08:30:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		If marklin make an EMD F7 with all the above,the price tag will climb to 800 euro.Who is going to buy the loco?
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river6109		#8 Posted : 20 February 2013 08:33:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		S-Bahn and underground railcars by http://www.halling.at/index.php?languageid=2 maybe not the quantity Märklin would like to see produced and therefore we haven't seen trams or railcars of lesser importance (with restricted access or compatibility on yur layout. e.g. Berliner Stadverkehre (Berlin S-Bahn) unless you have a city big enough to house such a railcar it would be out of character to have it going over mountains or a rural area. Underground railcar, again not a million item seller and therfore a remote contender. John
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Frankenbahner		#9 Posted : 20 February 2013 09:08:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 625 Location: Nuremberg, Bavaria		"Hödl Linie 8" from Munich offered a model of the Munich U-Bahn "B series" cars. They had a Munich (Münchener Verkehrsgesellschaft) version in blue/white as well as a Nuremberg (Verkehrs-Aktiengesellschaft Nürnberg) version in red/white, where these trains are classified as DT2. Other liveries of these trains do not exist. Halling and other firms have models of subway cars from Vienna and Berlin. For models from Hamburg, check the homepage of "Stadt im Modell" Regards, Florian Edited by user 20 February 2013 13:33:51(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Dimi194		#10 Posted : 20 February 2013 11:39:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 383		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: KingBuick I understand that that thread is for 2013 models. Mine however is for models in the undetermined future. Every year there is at least one thread about future new models that people would like to see. And hardly anybody will have an "I won't buy it if it comes later than 2013" attitude. New ICE 3 was announced by Fleischmann for 2-rail and 3-rail - Märklin was too slow once again (if it becomes a success) or Fleischmann was too fast (if the model doesn't succeed). I'm really keen for that Model... in the same vein I think Marklin should do the coupling thing with the ICE 2 like their German partners!
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evan.v.giles		#11 Posted : 14 April 2013 11:47:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2013(UTC) Posts: 85 Location: South Brisbane, Queensland		Hello again everyone, My pet peeve in this area is the lack of a consistent approach to thier selections IE have a group of three or four locos from each country steam, diesel and electric, they always seem to be a hodge podge of all of them. Marklin of course being German concentrates on DB/DR rolling stock so you have a preponderance of german locos but it would be nice to get an italian steam, diesel and electric loco or any of the countries Swiss, Danish, French ect because you end up with only one or two odd ones. And if you wanted to run a layout that represents a border crossing it's almost impossible to do because you have to combine an assortment of other brands and very few are three rail or cater for three rail.
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H0		#12 Posted : 14 April 2013 12:12:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,452 Location: DE-NW		Märklin have remarkable market shares in Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, and Austria. And they offer several models for these countries (and also some Scandinavian models). They don't have many for France or Italy - and it's even worse with Great Britain, Greek, or Spain. OTOH there are more than a dozen companies that also offer three-rail locos so it's rather easy to fill the gaps if you model a Western European layout.
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Mulldog Lemon		#13 Posted : 16 April 2013 01:27:26(UTC) Retweet
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mike c		#14 Posted : 16 April 2013 06:54:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,242 Location: Montreal, QC		Originally Posted by: KingBuick My wish list is as follows: DB Siemens Velaro D (new ICE 3) COMING FROM ROCO/FLEISCHMANN IN DC AND AC Eurostar SEPTA Silverliner series (I-V) WMATA 1000-7000 series NYC subway London Underground Münich U-Bahn THERE WAS A MODEL OF SUCH A TRAIN Berlin S-Bahn UP Challenger AMTRAK Acela AMTRAK ACS AMTRAK Genesis diesel loco AMTRAK Amfleet FS Frecchia Rossa ACME HAS A MODEL OF THIS (No AC but can be converted) RENFE (TRY ELECTROTREN) Japanese bullet trains Chinese bullet trains GM EMD F7 with all new features (LED interior and exterior lighting, sound coming from A+B+A units) ALCO PA-1 with all new features (LED interior and exterior lighting, sound coming from A+A units) new Mikado steam loco *Maybe* all new Union Pacific Big Boy with enhanced features Cheers! Tadeusz. My comments in CAPITALS (not yelling!) Regards, Mike C
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mike c		#15 Posted : 16 April 2013 07:04:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,242 Location: Montreal, QC		I think that it is important for Maerklin and any other manufacturer to select models that provide them with multiple options for future variants. Modern E-loks usually can be found with varying liveries, especially if that lok series is used in more than one country. Here I would like to see the 145/185/186 as a full model and not just as a Hobby edition Some steam loks can be found in multiple countries. This is especially the case of wartime loks that were operated by other countries after the war (WWII). I am surprised that Maerklin has not released more weathered versions with alternate numbers or versions with modified details. Trainsets like the Acela, Freccia Rossa, Frecciargento, AVG, etc do not offer multiple options. At least the Gottardo had TEE (5 and 6 unit) and IC versions. What I would like to see from Maerklin is a more expansive offering of coaches past the 1970s Avmz and Apmz and maybe the Avmz Eurofima and Bpmz291 types. That might be ok for hobby models, but they should make more models. Each model that I buy from another manufacturer is a lost sale for Maerklin. I would love to see a 28cm version of the metal coaches. If Maerklin would do a nice version of the interiors, it would be an instant classic. Regards Mike C
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H0		#16 Posted : 16 April 2013 08:15:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,452 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: mike c What I would like to see from Maerklin is a more expansive offering of coaches past the 1970s Avmz and Apmz and maybe the Avmz Eurofima and Bpmz291 types. That might be ok for hobby models, but they should make more models. Each model that I buy from another manufacturer is a lost sale for Maerklin. They changed the design principles when they moved from 264/270/275 mm to 282 mm length. IMHO it looks odd to mix 282 mm coaches with 303/316 mm coaches or with 264/270/275 mm. Their 282 mm range is incomplete - and totally ignores eras V and VI (except for the Maus-Showtrain). They do not offer any perspective. The new Merkur set is much like the old Hans Sachs set, but with interior lights. The new Rheingold '62 is the same as the Rheingold '62 made 5 years earlier, but with interior lights. No new moulds. The Rheinpfeil set in blue and red is just a livery variation of the same moulds. Meanwhile I bought three 1:87 Roco trains and one 1:87 Piko train and both beat Märklin's "new longer length" line by far. When it comes to models of 26.4 m coaches, I'm a lost customer for Märklin.
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RayF		#17 Posted : 16 April 2013 13:06:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		In the last couple of years Marklin included some of their old 27cm coaches in the Hobby/MyWorld range, as Interreggio cars. I would like to see this range expanded to include other types of 27cm coaches for which they still have the toolings, or maybe the same coaches but in different colours. I believe there is a market for a range of coaches in the 20 to 30 euro range instead of the now standard 50 to 60 euros.
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Brakepad		#18 Posted : 16 April 2013 20:20:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 633 Location: Montlouis sur Loire, France		Originally Posted by: mike c Originally Posted by: KingBuick Münich U-Bahn THERE WAS A MODEL OF SUCH A TRAIN My comments in CAPITALS (not yelling!) Regards, Mike C It would be nice to see a C1 München subway train...or even better a C2 model with the light effect on doors.
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Goofy		#19 Posted : 17 April 2013 18:19:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,281		Crampton era 1 steam in 3 and 2 rail. Still waiting...
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#20 Posted : 18 April 2013 05:03:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		I still want the Saxon XVIIIH and XXHV
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Jeremy Palmer		#21 Posted : 18 April 2013 13:31:52(UTC) Retweet
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Goofy		#22 Posted : 18 April 2013 17:16:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,281		Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Some kick ass, high quality Pullmans for the PRR A simple question Jeremy... What lenght has those Pullmans coaches in HO scale...?
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Jeremy Palmer		#23 Posted : 18 April 2013 23:59:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Hi Anders - Have not got a clue my friend. They are available in HO from other manufacturers though. Not sure if they are 1/87th. or 1/100 or whatever. Here is a fairly detailed review of a Walthers model. There are many observations that are Greek to me but will be understood by the more knowledgeable members of the forum ...... http://rrmodelcraftsman....ra_walthers_solarium.php Good to hear you, hope all ok and thoroughly enjoying the post on your layout mate!! Jeremy. ps. Please do not ask me about whether they can be lighted by AC because I wouldn't have a clue. That is why I want them made by Mother M .j.
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StuartA		#24 Posted : 22 April 2013 21:35:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 121 Location: Long Island, NY		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Some kick ass, high quality Pullmans for the PRR A simple question Jeremy... What length has those Pullmans coaches in HO scale...? Those cars are a scale 80 ft (24.4 meter) in length. That's about 11 inches (280 mm). Stuart
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xxup		#25 Posted : 22 April 2013 23:38:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,597 Location: Australia		I think that it is time Marklin made one lousy Australian loco with a modest set of wagons.. Even if it was a track grinder thing of German origin.. The other thing I would like to see is AC wheel sets for other brands of locos - unlikely ever to happen as it would encourage purchase of other rolling stock by existing customers..
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Dimi194		#26 Posted : 23 April 2013 03:28:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 383		Originally Posted by: xxup I think that it is time Marklin made one lousy Australian loco with a modest set of wagons.. Even if it was a track grinder thing of German origin.. The other thing I would like to see is AC wheel sets for other brands of locos - unlikely ever to happen as it would encourage purchase of other rolling stock by existing customers.. I heard they made one carriage a while back, but I haven't been able to find evidence of it yet... oh how many locos they could make!
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river6109		#27 Posted : 23 April 2013 03:30:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: xxup I think that it is time Marklin made one lousy Australian loco with a modest set of wagons.. Even if it was a track grinder thing of German origin.. Adrian, been there, done it. I've suggested to Märklin many years ago to produce a one off loco with carriages (starter set) and the answer was: unless I buy the whole range of Märklin products they are not interested. The other thing I would like to see is AC wheel sets for other brands of locos - unlikely ever to happen as it would encourage purchase of other rolling stock by existing customers..
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Bigdaddynz		#28 Posted : 23 April 2013 06:47:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Dimi194 I heard they made one carriage a while back, but I haven't been able to find evidence of it yet... They made a Fosters box car, and there was an Aussie boxcar in the International set of boxcars Marklin made some years ago. (This is a Marklin Z scale version, but I'm sure there was also a H0 version)
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Jeremy Palmer		#29 Posted : 24 April 2013 01:29:04(UTC) Retweet
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Mulldog Lemon		#30 Posted : 24 April 2013 01:53:51(UTC) Retweet
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RayF		#31 Posted : 24 April 2013 09:46:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		None of the big manufacturers seem at all interested in "Colonial" railways. Triang used to have a fair selection in the 1960s, but they were crude models, and would not be acceptable by today's standards. I guess the fact that multiple gauges were used, even within one country, also makes it difficult to make actual scale models. Does anyone even make any broad gauge models at all? I know that H0m and H0e cater for many narrow gauge prototypes, but I can't think of any broad gauge manufacturer. Even Spanish and Portuguese models are to the wrong gauge, as H0 is generally used for their broad gauge trains.
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mike c		#32 Posted : 26 April 2013 04:14:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,242 Location: Montreal, QC		Here is a list of some more items that Maerklin has not yet made or not made in a while: FS Eurofima Set in C1 Orange with white stripe (3 to 5 coaches) - 26.4cm FS Eurofima Set in mixed livery (1st class orange, 1st and 2nd class bigrigio and 2nd class XMPR IC+) DB Bvmz185 in various liveries Night Trains (various liveries and railroads) Regards Mike C
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old toot		#33 Posted : 27 April 2013 04:34:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 498 Location: christchurch, canterbury		hi all well you might be interested to know that soon Marklin will give you a chance to share what you would like through the insider club page so get ready to work your keyboards so they do read these ramblings we all type and it is a good source of feedback for them okay' regards the old shunter from the deep south Old toot just turned 65 and now a member of the kiwi Gold Card club that means we can ride buses from 9.am to 3 pm each day for free
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H0		#34 Posted : 27 April 2013 08:38:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,452 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: old toot well you might be interested to know that soon Marklin will give you a chance to share what you would like through the insider club page Will they re-activate the Märklin Insider Forum? Or will it be just another contact form forwarding to /dev/null?
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#35 Posted : 27 April 2013 11:18:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		I am still waiting for the Sachsenstolz aka Saxon XXHV,photo from Osterthun:
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RayF		#36 Posted : 27 April 2013 14:22:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Nice loco! I don't think Marklin have ever made a Saxon loco, have they?
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H0		#37 Posted : 27 April 2013 15:04:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,452 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: RayF I don't think Marklin have ever made a Saxon loco, have they? I think they did (if we count LGB as Märklin). IMHO that BR 19.0 (sä XX HV) is more likely as a Trix Fine Art model than as a Märklin model. Gützold and MMC made this class in H0 (both 2-rail and 3-rail), Lemaco and Model Loco made 2-rail versions. Is there enough demand for a fifth mould?
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Goofy		#38 Posted : 28 April 2013 18:19:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,281		Brimalm did also made Sachen steam locomotiv!!
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RayF		#39 Posted : 28 April 2013 20:14:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: RayF I don't think Marklin have ever made a Saxon loco, have they? I think they did (if we count LGB as Märklin). .... No, I don't count LGB as Marklin.
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mike c		#40 Posted : 28 April 2013 20:28:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,242 Location: Montreal, QC		Would anybody be interested if Maerklin were to offer a series entitled "Subways of the world"? Many subways actually work with a third rail, so Maerklin is not far off. Regards Mike C
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