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Offline daveeb  
#1 Posted : 09 February 2013 06:25:31(UTC)
daveeb

Canada   
Joined: 09/02/2013(UTC)
Posts: 2
Location: Montreal
Hello, this is my first message here.

I have recently sold a N scale Roco Trans Europ Express TEE "Helvetia" Diesel Railcar Train. The train set was used. The auction had two passenger cars, one motorized locomotive and one dummy. I remember that only the locomotives (powered and unpowered) had couplers, while the passenger cars had none and nothing seem to be missing or broken...

So I consulted a lot of brand new sets using Google picture, and it seem that few sets had couplers and others dont. I was right to describe with text and pictures all the imperfections of the set, one missing wheel and paint damage, but also very naive to say anything about the missing passenger couplers.

I would like to know if you guys know what is wrong with the Roco set I sold and how the passenger cars are attached to the others when the powered locomotive has to pull the others ??

I have already proposed a refund to the buyer, but I'm curious about that.


Thanks a lot for letting me post my question here, Dave.
Offline NS1200  
#2 Posted : 10 February 2013 16:05:00(UTC)
NS1200

Netherlands   
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC)
Posts: 3,443
Greetings Dave,

This is basically a Maerklin forum but because we are good people will try and help you with your Roco question,no worries!

Roco have issued the N scale Helvetia dieselset in various versions over the years.
If we presume you sold the first version than productnumber for the motorised unit,the dummy,and the two coaches was 2167A.
There was also an extensionset with number 2168A,containing 3 coaches.
We are talking the year 1984 here.

The coupling between the motorunit and coaches on the left hand side and the similar coupling between the dummy and coaches on the right hand side are of a different type as compared to the couplings between the coaches,this is important to remember!
The couplings for the drive units have one small jaw and one bigger jaw,Roco partcode 2167S-171.
The couplings between the coaches have two jaws of a similar size,Roco partcode 2167S-172.
On German Ebay.de i have seen that reproductions of these couplings are for sale, for around Euro 20.- per set,i would not pay the buyer a refund exceeding that.

www.mtkb.de/Firmen_PDF/W...co/2167A/roco_VT11_5.htm

Good luck!
And if you are bored with Roco,why not try Maerklin in H0 scale?

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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