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Shop celebrating 20 years with a special edition. The first genuine Dm3 with all the numbers in sequence 976-977-978 delivered to SJ, 1960. More info modellhobby.seDelivery late summer fall. |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm  Shop celebrating 20 years with a special edition. The first genuine Dm3 with all the numbers in sequence 976-977-978 delivered to SJ, 1960. More info modellhobby.seDelivery late summer fall. Smart business way...but no big difference from Marklins new Dm3...just only roadnumber.  |
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It’s limited 500 copies and will never be done by M directly, same ide like Roco special item 982-983-984 (150 copies) for their own club members. >> Dm3 976-977-978 << |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm It’s limited 500 copies and will never be done by M directly, more same ide like Roco special item 982-983-984 (150 copies) for their own club members. >> Dm3 976-977-978 << What do you mean..."will never done by M directly"???´ Isn´t Marklin who shall producing Dm3...??? |
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I don’t think that they will do their own version with the same number like 976-977-978.
Better to buy this item and wait for the second hand market of original release item 37753. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Smart business way...but no big difference from Marklins new Dm3...just only roadnumber. Buying Märklin today is seldom smart business for the buyer. This is one of the few that have potential to become valuable. But that's not the reason why I will buy it... Thanks for posting Jonas! /Torbjörn
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The question I put to myself: Will Märklin do two versions of the middle section, the actual Dm3?
If you look closely at the photos of 37753 and 37754, you'll see that prototype photos of the Swedish engine on page 127 of the New Items brochure and compare it to that of the shop, then you'll see two easily spotted differences. The delivery version had small air-intakes on the roof edges and spoke wheels. The 1200-series engineses (2nd series) have larger air-intakes and SAB wheels. The photos of 37753 on pages 128 and 129 clearly show the larger air-intake and the SAB wheels. If you look at the 37754, the NSB El 12 on pages 136 and 137, you'll see that the El12 model has the small air-intakes and spoke wheels.
This means that for producing the 37755, you can base it on 37754 but you'll also need the middle section with the smaller air-intake and spoke wheels.
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Fascinating locos! The more the merrier I say!  Why do we have to over-analyse everything?  |
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Thank you for posting this Jonas. |
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Originally Posted by: RayF Fascinating locos! The more the merrier I say! Why do we have to over-analyse everything? Congratualtions Ray - the first member not from Sweden in this thread! This is a sort of a "Crocodile of the North" - Long and articulated; due to its design as three premanently coupled engines (Dm+Dm3+Dm) and powerful! That's why we have to analyze it so much. The question is: Do I have to mortgage my house because of the 37753, 37754 and now 37755?
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Just ordered it! Have you?
I translated the swedish text to english in the new items thread. |
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Originally Posted by: RayF Fascinating locos! The more the merrier I say! Why do we have to over-analyse everything? Congratualtions Ray - the first member not from Sweden in this thread! This is a sort of a "Crocodile of the North" - Long and articulated; due to its design as three premanently coupled engines (Dm+Dm3+Dm) and powerful! That's why we have to analyze it so much. The question is: Do I have to mortgage my house because of the 37753, 37754 and now 37755? It´s a bad-ass train! I think the answer is yes! It´s better with new models than a house. ..or? |
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Originally Posted by: RayF Fascinating locos! The more the merrier I say! Why do we have to over-analyse everything? Congratualtions Ray - the first member not from Sweden in this thread! This is a sort of a "Crocodile of the North" - Long and articulated; due to its design as three premanently coupled engines (Dm+Dm3+Dm) and powerful! That's why we have to analyze it so much. The question is: Do I have to mortgage my house because of the 37753, 37754 and now 37755? The answer is: Simply yes One thing is sure, I will buy this item as well as the 37753 (I really hope that Märklin will wait to release the 37942) |
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It has probably spoke wheels and small air intakes as the origin.
M has certainly made the made tools so you can do lots of change, when they should survive many years on this model.
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Hi all, Very nice Loco. Ian.
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And how are you suppose to register or order on that webste with no English version available? |
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Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa And how are you suppose to register or order on that webste with no English version available? Not that hard, I just use Google translate. There is a section to leave comments when you order. r/Thomas |
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I just took a gander at the Roco 2013 catalog, around page 54. Nice!
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific The question I put to myself: Will Märklin do two versions of the middle section, the actual Dm3?
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Yes, it's an interesting question. It says "as it looked in 1960", so that's a commitment... There will be spoked wheels. Anything else is impossible. It changes the look of the loco quite dramatic and would be a deal-breaker for me and many more. (The SAB-wheels were introduced 1963.) I also guess it will have the smaller air intakes. Since, as you say, they have the 900-series in the norwegian model they just would have to change the "middle part". I don't think that's overly complicated (expensive). They also include a booklet about the train. Would be strange to have pictures in the booklet that don't look like the model. But most importantly, the shop is located in Luleå where the "home" of the loco is today. (Luleå is also the southern end-station of Malmbanan.) I can't imaging them accepting any compromises. But we'll have to wait and see. /Torbjörn
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Hi!
I've been in contact with the shop. They say that the model will have spoked wheels and the smaller air intakes/vents.
/Torbjörn
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Seems that the special version comes before M own Q4  |
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Originally Posted by: mjrallare Originally Posted by: Western Pacific The question I put to myself: Will Märklin do two versions of the middle section, the actual Dm3?
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Yes, it's an interesting question. It says "as it looked in 1960", so that's a commitment............./Torbjörn Would it be correct to say that Marklin ore cars 46370 & 46371 are prototypically incorrect for use with this loco, as they date from the 1970 "look"? |
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This type of ore wagon is called "Mas 1950" produced in 1740 copies the years 1950 to 1952. |
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As Jonas says it's the Mas 1950 and it's the "standard version". They can also be seen with different extensions on top that made the waggons higher and capable of taking greater loads. This type of waggon will be as good for the 37755 as it is for the 37753. I don't know about the lettering though...
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Let's hope M can produce a end wagon with lights  like Roco have done.  |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Let's hope M can produce a end wagon with lights like Roco have done. Quote:
Jonas,
do you know the Roco number and year?
r/Thomas
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Hi Thomas
DC for 2 rails, but can be rebuilt with pick up shoe...
art nr: 66285
holder: SJ type: Uad(p) nr: 921 1 580-4
year: 2007- |
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Jonas, I really like the photo of the waggons that you've posted above. They seem to be in a more or less new condition.
Where have you found this nice picture?
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Hi Thomas
DC for 2 rails, but can be rebuilt with pick up shoe...
art nr: 66285
holder: SJ type: Uad(p) nr: 921 1 580-4
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Originally Posted by: mjrallare Jonas, I really like the photo of the waggons that you've posted above. They seem to be in a more or less new condition.
Where have you found this nice picture?
/Torbjörn
Picture can be found here: http://www.samlingsportalen.se/Search for malmvagn to find some nice pictures of the Mas 1950. Type Dm3 for pictures of the loco mentioned in this thread. Type Dm and you'll find some pages with very nice black and white photos. /Torbjörn
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Hi, Is there anywhere where I can see a picture of the 37755? Also, is it right that Norway used these family of engines so was the 1950's green version (3019?) a real colour scheme? Thank you!
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Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Hi, Is there anywhere where I can see a picture of the 37755? Also, is it right that Norway used these family of engines so was the 1950's green version (3019?) a real colour scheme? Thank you! To start from the end; the green SJ Da, 3019, has no prototype. NSB didn't have them. I'm pretty sure that Märklin created that version with a livery inspired by the green colour of German electric engines in order to increase sales in Germany. Moving over to the iron ore line engines, there SJ and NSB originally ordered two-unit engines. The Swedish ones given the brown "house" colours of SJ and the Norwegian in green livery. Some more information here.I don't think there is any picture of the 37755 yet. The store that have placed the order for this special series with Märklin shows a photo of the prototype: 
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Looks like the >> wagons<< will be loaded with ore |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Looks like the >> wagons<< will be loaded with ore Jonas, Which Marklin TV episode is that? r/Thomas |
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Originally Posted by: GSRR Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Looks like the >> wagons<< will be loaded with ore Jonas, Which Marklin TV episode is that? r/Thomas It's #58. German version available since January 24th on the Insider Club pages.
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Shop celebrating 20 years with a special edition. The first genuine Dm3 with all the numbers in sequence 976-977-978 delivered to SJ, 1960. More info modellhobby.seDelivery late summer fall. I did wrote mail to hobbystore and did asking them why there is not from Trix too as special model...? They couldn´t answer why...   |
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I´ve got a newsletter telling me 2/3 of the models are prebooked! So hurry up if you want one! |
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This model looks more and more like a HOBBY My World TRAXX engine  Check out the red ending light totally wrong inside top headlight, also the space between the units is too big  I hope this is a temporary solution....... Mas wagon picture1 and 2 |
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Seems M has to improve the KK Kinematic of this model
The wagons look amazing!
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm This looks more and more like a HOBBY My World TRAXX model Check out the red end light, also the space between the units is too big I hope this is a temporary solution....... Mas wagon picture1 and 2 That bad huh? Did you order one? How would you compare this to the Roco version? r/Thomas |
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Not the best picture Roco is using a real KK Kinematic   |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm This model looks more and more like a HOBBY My World TRAXX engine Check out the red ending light totally wrong inside top headlight, also the space between the units is too big I hope this is a temporary solution....... Mas wagon picture1 and 2 I've noticed the bad finishes on the new items page but I think this was a model that was made just to show it (not a great idea) and the final product would be better.
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Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm This model looks more and more like a HOBBY My World TRAXX engine Check out the red ending light totally wrong inside top headlight, also the space between the units is too big I hope this is a temporary solution....... Mas wagon picture1 and 2 I've noticed the bad finishes on the new items page but I think this was a model that was made just to show it (not a great idea) and the final product would be better.
I think so too! About the distance between the units, in the video it seems bigger because the model is in a curve. Despite this seems the Roco has the units closer. I don't know if it can run on 360 mm radius curves or needs a larger radius.
At least the characteristics M announced for the model seem to be excellent!
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The ending light gives me anyway bad vibrations to be real solution  This old rebuilt tree unit of Da looks almost better  |
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Well this could well be a pre-production model. The 37753 is not due until Q4 2013. Plenty of time for people to tell ModellHobby Luleå that they are not happy!
new info posted on the 37755.
Difference between our 37755 Dm3 and Märklin 37753, see list below:
1. The loco will get the smaller air-intakes on all the 3 sections.
2. Spoked wheels in correct colorscheme.
3. Yellow/red identificationmarks.
4. Roadnumbers on the buffertbeams.
5. The sound for the locomotive is recorded from the original loco.
Pris i SEK: 4995.00 Kr
Pris i EURO: 587.65 €
(37753 Ditt pris i EURO efter rabatt: 555.90 € )
r/Thomas
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Better move of Dm3 railtv.fr and other stuff from Nürnberg. |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Better move of Dm3 railtv.fr and other stuff from Nürnberg. Nice video. Runs from 5:01 to 8:25 some good shots there, pulling about 24 wagons. The space between the units is huge, not good. r/Thomas |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm This model looks more and more like a HOBBY My World TRAXX engine Check out the red ending light totally wrong inside top headlight, also the space between the units is too big I hope this is a temporary solution....... Mas wagon picture1 and 2 I must keep you in remind here that Dm3 model is only prototyp model. I have been in other swedish forum that are writing about Marklins Dm3 model and must say:STOP IT BY WRITING S**T...!!! So relax please...it´s so far prototyp model. |
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Anders don’t worry, we also know that this model is a demo ex Like this picture shows it will be the right ending light position  Even if you are a truly Märklinist this model will never compares with Roco details  |
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