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Offline Jackson  
#1 Posted : 22 December 2011 19:35:37(UTC)
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I just installed my first threeway switch (24630). I intalled two 74490 turnout mechanisms and noticed there is no place to install the 74460 decoders. I have asked a couple of individuals and they do not have an answer. I run a 60214 controller. How do I get the turnout mechanisms to work with the controller?
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Offline DV  
#2 Posted : 22 December 2011 19:54:51(UTC)
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Do you have the instructions that came with the three way point?

In there you will find that you cannot install a decoder. You have to go the 'old' way, by taking it through a k83.

That's why I don't bother to have three ways.

Anyone out there, if I'm wrong, please correct me.

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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 22 December 2011 20:02:04(UTC)
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Jackson wrote:
How do I get the turnout mechanisms to work with the controller?
You can get the 5235 decoder from Viessmann:
http://www.mist-owl.de/stummi/3WW.jpg

Or use a k83 (6083, 60830, or compatible). Those do not fit inside the trackbed, but are cheaper than a 5235 and can control two three-way turnouts or four two-way turnouts.
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Offline David Dewar  
#4 Posted : 22 December 2011 20:13:32(UTC)
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The Viessmann decoder will not work with all versions of the CS2. Send an email first to Viessmann to confirm.
I have one Viessmann fitted to the only three way I have and it works perfectly. Saves wiring etc.

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Offline nevw  
#5 Posted : 22 December 2011 23:05:09(UTC)
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One trap with the Viessman 3 way Decoder. the first address MUST be an odd number and it automatically takes the next number.

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Offline Jackson  
#6 Posted : 26 December 2011 14:49:43(UTC)
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Thanks to all for their advice. I will follow through Viessmann and see what they say.
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Offline 60904  
#7 Posted : 21 January 2012 16:07:54(UTC)
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There will be a new decoder in 2012 for the 3 way witch. 74465.
Greetings
Martin
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#8 Posted : 14 September 2012 17:35:30(UTC)
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Offline Jackson  
#9 Posted : 16 September 2012 22:03:16(UTC)
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I have two 74490's installed. I have connected the two blue and single yellow wires from each 74490 to the K83 as shown in the instructions. The blue, yellow and red connectors for each 74490 are connected to the K83 on one side. Six connections. I have one red and one brown coming out of the K83 and connected to a section of track for power. The toggle switch is set to 3,5,7. I am seeing the threeway on my 60214, but when I touch the screen to change the switch position; nothing changes. It seems as if there is no power to the switch but I can see it on the controller. Any thoughts???

Thanks in advance.

Wayne
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Offline H0  
#10 Posted : 16 September 2012 22:17:26(UTC)
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The toggle switch is set to 3,5,7.
So the addresses are 5 through 8. Have you tried 5 through 8 on your CS2? And set to MM protocol?
MM turnouts are like MM locos: you can register anything you want and your CS2 will show what you register. The CS2 gets no feedback from MM devices, so there'll never be an error message when the address is invalid.

The k83 will not work when red (centre rail, B) and brown (outer rail, 0) are swapped.
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Offline H0  
#11 Posted : 17 September 2012 17:07:46(UTC)
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The k83 will not work when red (centre rail, B) and brown (outer rail, 0) are swapped.
This must be checked for both connections (CS2 to track, track to k83).
The k83 should have 8 DIP switches, not 10. With 3, 5, and 7 on it's four ports respond to the addresses 5 through 8 (on the first keyboard).
You need two motors for a threeway switch, each motor needs three wires connected to the k83.
Connect both motors to different outputs of one k83, using six connectors on the same side of the k83.

Pictures might help if it doesn't work.
Regards
Tom
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