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Hello boys! I decides to create an topic which we shall show up how to use ballast on Marklins K tracks. All tips welcomes and don´t forget presentation manufactures name of ballast. Even better show up with pictures as results.  In this case i did use WS light grey and dark grey mixed. Both of them are medium size. Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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Here is another pic! WS with buff and brown mixed. Both are medium size. Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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 Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Looks very good, Anders! |
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Hi Anders, Great looking work. Ian.
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Looks great!
And good idea with this post.
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Hi Goofy, I think I prefer the buff and brown. As I have C track, I'm using the grey that matches. I'm trying to decide how close to the tracks to add grass and weeds or another color of larger rocks. That is part of the fun. 
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How close? Think of: 1. maintenance people walking aside the track 2. weeding cars maintening the track... I would advise to keepo the grass some 1,5 - 2 cm of track, left some 'forgottren bushes'. Trains usually don't run through the jungle. See f.i. right here. Regards Frits
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Originally Posted by: Osterthun  How close? Think of: 1. maintenance people walking aside the track 2. weeding cars maintening the track... I would advise to keepo the grass some 1,5 - 2 cm of track, left some 'forgottren bushes'. Trains usually don't run through the jungle. See f.i. right here. Regards Frits Frits, Your level of detail is remarkable! Matched only by your skill in lighting and photography. I appreciate the advice as to the weeds and such. As I'm only two years into the hobby I have a lot to learn. I wasn't aware of 'weeding cars' for era I. (Sorry Goofy if I've highjacked your post). Gary
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 Joined: 20/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 96 Location: Buenos Aires, BA
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Dear friends from this forum:
Do you anyone know how -or- if possible to make own ho tracks?
In U.S.A. there some manyfactures called like fast tracks, micro engeneering or similat that sell kits to build turnouts, flex tracks, etc.
The final appearence and details are impressive, but i fo not know if are adecuate to the european style. Also we sould be add the third rail....
Could you help with your opinion?
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Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA
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Hi Diego,all,
>Do you anyone know how -or- if possible to make own ho tracks?
In U.S.A. there some manyfactures called like fast tracks, micro engeneering or similat that sell kits to build turnouts, flex tracks, etc.<
That is called hand-laid track.
>The final appearence and details are impressive, but i fo not know if are adecuate to the european style. Also we sould be add the third rail....Could you help with your opinion?
No that would be N. American type,different that European.You can build your own M-style e-rail tracks,try the search function as there are some posts/how-to's either here or the old forum.There are methods to DIY(Do It Yourself) and some commercial products for the 3rd rail,however turnouts are a problem.
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Helo and thanks!
I believed that it would be possible...but is true that the american style and european are different. the equal mode I am going to find the old posts that you said.
Thanks again
A hug!
Diego
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Originally Posted by: Osterthun How close? Think of: 1. maintenance people walking aside the track 2. weeding cars maintening the track... I would advise to keepo the grass some 1,5 - 2 cm of track, left some 'forgottren bushes'. Trains usually don't run through the jungle. See f.i. right here. Regards Frits Frits, Nice post love the photograph, and the excellently modeled scene. Maybe you could do a post with pictures showing how you ended up with such realistic looking rock face. Excellent. BR Glenn |
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Or tracks on his layout since this topic is about ballast and K tracks. |
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I did another test. Now with WS brown medium size and rust on the rail. Perfect as era 2-4! Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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Hi Anders, Looks really good. Ian.
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Good afternoon Anders
I had a problem in that my K-tracks puckos started rusting with after ballasting. To ballast 2-rail (DC/DCC) is very easy and nothing can really go wrong unlike with K-track. Can you perhaps run through how you ballasted K-track? The sequence of activites and what you found worked and what did not work. Thanks ! |
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Originally Posted by: marklinsa Good afternoon Anders
I had a problem in that my K-tracks puckos started rusting with after ballasting. To ballast 2-rail (DC/DCC) is very easy and nothing can really go wrong unlike with K-track. Can you perhaps run through how you ballasted K-track? The sequence of activites and what you found worked and what did not work. Thanks ! With rust it happens so by of water mixed with glue. There is special glue from Merkur or Faller that have glue which dries between sleepers. Before it dries you can put ballast on special glue. But ballast is made of crunched rocks and will sink down. Marklin have new feeder contact clip that won´t rust in contact with water. Older K tracks did had copper feeder clips and that was not good! Just go ahead with new K tracks and try! |
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Another way to put ballast. Medium light gray. Pictures shows before and after dirty. Perfect as modern era 4-6! Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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Today i toke an walk outside with camera. Here is some pictures of tracks with wooden tie and concrete. Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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Thanks for the tip, Goofy. |
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I did test in another way and this time with real wood ties. I painted with stain color walnut and dirty after that. Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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Very good, Anders! |
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Hello friends: Really Goofy your effort and let us your job is an excellent idea! Congratulations, but how do you think to make the third rail? Is possible or this stage is only to DC or two rail layout? Equal thank a lot for you apport to this topic.
Best wishes, Diego
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Originally Posted by: Goofy I did test in another way and this time with real wood ties.
I painted with stain color walnut and dirty after that.
I think you are on the way to be a pro in ballasting...
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Originally Posted by: akv2002 Hello friends: Really Goofy your effort and let us your job is an excellent idea! Congratulations, but how do you think to make the third rail? Is possible or this stage is only to DC or two rail layout? Equal thank a lot for you apport to this topic.
Best wishes, Diego
You can do this by use: www.handlaidtrack.comwww.erbert-signale.deErbert are selling punktkontakt system that allows for 2 rail system with code 100. Handlaid have code 100. |
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Originally Posted by: Goofy I did test in another way and this time with real wood ties.
I painted with stain color walnut and dirty after that.
I think you are on the way to be a pro in ballasting...
You can check at my layout in topic area "My layout". New "Erbach era 1" and you can see my results with tracks. But my tracks are Tillig Elite code83 and ties are plastic. |
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A little better picture of the track. Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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Okey...let´s go again with K tracks! This time i did decides to test what i happens by use rust color on the fishplates. And waterglue(50% woodglue,50% water and few drops of dish liquid) between clip contact under the tracks. When ballast did dried...i shall test if there is still contact between two tracks. Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: kbvrod Wrong color. You also see water glue i did just put on the ballast. When ballast it dried...the shade of color darkens. Ballast is in beige color. |
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Let´s see the results!! I did tested contact between tracks and there is still good contact. Although i was expecting water glue get stuck between clip contact under the track. For those who shall build up a new layout with K-tracks i recommended to soldering clip contact before lay ballast. Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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I did used ballast this time in size "fine" and soiled the tracks. Goofy attached the following image(s): |
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To avoid rust in the new part of my lay out I have decided for Mercur ballast
That is also given us the advantage of having our turnout with ballast as well
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HI, very good job with the K tracks, i have the same tracks but are not good the ballasts, you see my albums.
regards.
MACER
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Before i use water glue to add ballast,i spray isopropyl alcohol mixed with water to counteracts the surface tension of the ballast. |
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The Best solution for K track Ballast on a layout is "Merkur" now available again from their website, and from Lokshop at least ! It allows you to lift and relay the tracks at will ( great for adding contact points etc,) and doesn't cause the centre contacts to rust. Digital power feed should be every metre or so ideally ! Check out Dale Schultz's webpages (mixmox.com ?) for plenty of great tips ! All that said, of course Merkur does cost, but can save you money and frustration in the long term ! But also maybe not as pro looking as Goofy's  I am going to use it for my layout (mainly BTW and surrounds) where I haven't already got the Noch mossmer foam ballast / underlay. |
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