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In this photo I used the method of stacking 5 photos, each focused at a different position in the frame.  Edited by moderator 12 October 2012 01:03:42(UTC)
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Spectacular picture. It is so sharp, it's almost unbelievable. Which software did you use?
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Piper that is an impressive photo. I really like it. Your Avatar, is that "Midrand" airport in the background or as I remember it as "Grand Central Airport"? |
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Originally Posted by: Caralain  Spectacular picture. It is so sharp, it's almost unbelievable. Which software did you use?
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Pierre Hi Pierre, Thanks  I used Photoshop CS6 for the stacking and the final sharpening in Lightroom 4. Pieter |
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Originally Posted by: DaveB Piper that is an impressive photo. I really like it. Your Avatar, is that "Midrand" airport in the background or as I remember it as "Grand Central Airport"? Thanks Dave. The PA28 is at Rand Airport, Germiston. If I may, why do you ask? Pieter |
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Pieter, I used to live in Sandton (Parkmore) & later on Fontainebleau in Randburg. Worked for Matthysen buses for many years. Flown out of Rand Airport many times in an old Piper Aztec but as as a passenger only.Matthysen Buses had a Bell longranger that I flew in many times but based at Grand Central Airport. The background looked familiar & that is why I asked.  |
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Piper wrote:In this photo I used the method of stacking 5 photos, each focused at a different position in the frame.
Very nice, Pieter. I see a Canon L zoom in the background. What kind of camera and lens did you use for the five photos? I have Photoshop CS5 and have to do a test. |
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Originally Posted by: intruder Piper wrote:In this photo I used the method of stacking 5 photos, each focused at a different position in the frame.
Very nice, Pieter. I see a Canon L zoom in the background. What kind of camera and lens did you use for the five photos? I have Photoshop CS5 and have to do a test. Thanks Svein. I used a Canon 7d and the normal Canon 100mm macro lens. Just move the focus from the front to the back with each shot. I think more will actually give a better result. CS5 will certainly also work and might even be easier than CS6. I'm looking forward to see some pics, enjoy. Pieter Edited by user 09 August 2012 13:52:46(UTC)
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Very interesting technique indeed... |
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A real super photo. Thanks for sharing! Peter  
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Originally Posted by: Piper In this photo I used the method of stacking 5 photos, each focused at a different position in the frame. Very nice photo - would you be able to post a single-focus of the same image for comparison - ie if you did not have the ability to retouch it and had to pick a focal point that you felt was as good as you would get? - love to see what an improvement your technique has? I definitely need "Photoshop for Dummies", all the things I know 'can' be done to improve pictures but what a learning curve involved. Well done Cookee NZ |
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Hi Cookee Good question. The macro lens has such a narrow DOF that only the front part will be in sharp focus. I think normally one will only use this part.   |
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Originally Posted by: Piper Hi Cookee Good question. The macro lens has such a narrow DOF that only the front part will be in sharp focus. I think normally one will only use this part. Wow, what a HUGE difference it makes, someone (not you) could waffle forever about the 'theory' behind this, but to have a comparison like you have shown just shows the remarkable result for what you've done - thanks heaps. I guess it would be most effective for an angle shot like this. And of course this is not really 'retouching' in any way, no airbrushing etc, just using the varying focus shots to apply to the whole 3D image. Awesome. Presumably (not that I would understand without knowing the software) there has to be some way for the process to know how to blend the images to the the sharp focus of each one is what is needed. ie, a shot that had the Cab number in focus for example would then have the firebox number out of focus and blurry? - the ability to progressively apply the sharp/focused portion of the image is smart stuff. Can I take it that the blurry section of the photo (just past the smoke deflectors and down to the valve-gear) is just where you might need to do some fine-tuning, or did you not have that area as a focus shot? - not a criticism, just trying to understand. Cheers Steve |
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Hi Steve, It is farely easy to do. Once you've taken all the pictures you load them as a stack in CS6. This will create layers for each of the photos. File - Scripts - Load Files into Stack. Make sure to tick the Auto Blend Layers tick box. Then select all the layers and choose Edit→Auto-Blend Layers. This will create the sharp picture by only using the sharpest focus points of each picture. Steve you got me,  sorry, the photo that was suppose to be the one just past the smoke deflectors is not there, the flash did not fire and that photo was unusable. Pieter |
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Pieter, Great picture, and clever technique ! Regards, John
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Originally Posted by: Piper In this photo I used the method of stacking 5 photos, each focused at a different position in the frame. Piper thanks for showing us your technique, exellent photo. Hannes |
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Thanks Hannes & John |
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Here is my latest version of Image Stacking   Pieter |
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That is a really interesting technique Pieter! The one above is just great! I like how the light is just the right level and how the tender sort of "fades" away in the dark. Maybe you could (next time you take pictures) try having the loco headlights on? (if the track is actually wired which I sort of guess it is not?). I think that would make the picture even better.
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Thanks Oliver, Good idea and you are right. This one I just grabbed some track to try to get the lighting from the camera flashes positioned in the right place. I agree having the loco's lights on will enhance the picture. I'll have to try again.  Pieter |
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Originally Posted by: Piper Thanks Oliver, Good idea and you are right. This one I just grabbed some track to try to get the lighting from the camera flashes positioned in the right place. I agree having the loco's lights on will enhance the picture. I'll have to try again. Pieter Don't forget to post it here! . |
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Hi Pieter, A topic I have always had on my to do list and with your examples I decided to give it a go when I was next photographing my train for another article. The image was made using CS4 photoshop. Six images were taken and stacked as per your instructions I must say I like the result.  |
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Ross Very nice picture & Loco Pieter |
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this is a new topic and experience for me.
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Hi Pieter, Thanks for your comment. I like the loco and picture as well. As I mentioned I have just completed an article and posted it to my web pages concerning the King Wilhelm II locomotive. Originally Posted by: Piper Ross Very nice picture & Loco Pieter |
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Hi John, I hope new experiences are all good for you. Originally Posted by: river6109 this is a new topic and experience for me.
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Amazing pictures, I have to give this a try!
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Hi Henrik, How's the photo stacking coming along? Originally Posted by: Superlampster Amazing pictures, I have to give this a try!
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Hello Everyone, I decide to explore this photo stacking a little more and decided to photograph the moving chooks made by Viessmann that I have just installed on my layout. First I took a photo of the chooks in front of the farm house with the focus on the house, the chooks are not in focus.  Next I focused on the chooks and took 6 photos as a continuous burst, this was to capture the chooks in different positions, the house is out of focus.  I then stacked the photo of the house (in focus) and one photo of the chooks (in focus). I removed the out of focus parts from both layers then I selected the two new layer copies and did "Edit --> Auto-Blend Layers" to blend the in focus sections into one photo.  I repeated this process for the remaining 5 in focus chooks. With 6 photos with the house and chooks in focus I created a new stack with align source images box ticked. I then output an animated gif file using "File --> Save for Web and Devices" which has six frames with 0.2 seconds for each frame that runs continuous to get the final result.  |
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Hi Mehmet and Steven, Thanks for your comments. I had fun creating the photo. |
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Looks like it's a windy day with the grass moving in front of the house...  Could it be that you used AF for the pics of the chicken and a slight focus point change occured between the pics? Actually this is great example of what can be done with a camera + software if you think "out-of-the-box", simply excellent... This topic is very inspirational indeed... |
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Hi Juhan, Thanks for the The moving grass happend because I didn't use a fixed mask (I think) for each join of the house and chooks. The joins combining the house and the chooks were in different places. With my first attempt at this, the house also moved. I must say I spent some time doing this. Exposure and focus is in manual mode. I like the challenge to learn new things and this seemed to be a good idea to combine two hobbies together on a cold afternoon. Originally Posted by: Webmaster Looks like it's a windy day with the grass moving in front of the house... Could it be that you used AF for the pics of the chicken and a slight focus point change occured between the pics? Actually this is great example of what can be done with a camera + software if you think "out-of-the-box", simply excellent... This topic is very inspirational indeed... |
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Excellent Ross, thanks for the time creating the image and sharing. Only noticed your posts in the thread after Nev's one had the link from Steve  |
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