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NS1200		#1 Posted : 02 June 2012 12:37:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Series 3700 were the last operational steamlocomotives on the Dutch railnetwork in the late fifties. The last of the many No.3737 was restored in the eighties and made a couple of steamtrips. Unfortunately she is no longer able to run and as such put on display at our national railwaymuseum at Utrecht. Her nickname was Jumbo. If you think German is a difficult language,what about Dutch: Enjoy! Paul. Edited by moderator 03 June 2012 18:56:58(UTC) \| Reason: Edited YT link to show
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Western Pacific		#2 Posted : 03 June 2012 16:51:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 841 Location: Lidingö, Sweden		Hi Paul, Nice video and I understood most of what the speaker said. But perhaps I'm disqualified from commenting on understanding Dutch and I found the Dutch speaker relatively easy to follow. First, he spoke relatively slowly with distinct pronunciation and second, I have studied Dutch for one term at the Stockholm University, even if it took a couple of years to complete since I did it as evening classes and in parallel with my full time job and it was over twenty years ago.


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NS1200		#3 Posted : 03 June 2012 17:04:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Per, Why for heavens sake did you decide to start learning Dutch? What was your motive? Paul.
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Western Pacific		#4 Posted : 03 June 2012 17:37:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 841 Location: Lidingö, Sweden		Originally Posted by: NS1200 Per, Why for heavens sake did you decide to start learning Dutch? What was your motive? Paul. Hi Paul, The short answer just for fun and the bit longer one is that when you know Swedish and more importantly German and English, then you can read Dutch and get close to, or more than 90% right. The tricky thing is when the "key to the sentence" sits in the 10%. Taking the classes in and particular Dutch phonetics was the de-ciphering algorithm to also understand spoken Dutch. On the other hand people in the Netherlands and Flanders are so good at speaking English which means that it is very seldom that I succeed in speaking Dutch, since they hear that I'm not a native speaker and they often switch to English to be polite to me. About the motive, I like to travel, by car or train, and I've been in many countries in Western Europe (as well as the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) and understood the language, but this was not the case in the Netherlands and in northern Belgium. I've also been to China and Japan and felt rather excuded since I cannot read signs or understand anything of the language. Greece is somewhat in-between, since I hold an MScEE and from for instance mathematics and physics classes you pick up quite a deal of the Greek alphabet, but not the language.


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kariosls37		#5 Posted : 03 June 2012 23:59:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,067 Location: Auckland, New Zealand		Interesting video Paul, I had not seen that one before. A history of the class for those who can't understand Dutch: The NS 3737 was one of the 115 strong class of 4-6-0's that were first built by Beyer, Peacock & co for the State Railways (Staatsspoor) from 1910 onwards. Because they were a lot larger than their predecesors(Outside-framed 4-4-0's), the class recieved the name Jumbo. They were also built by Hanomag, Werkspoor and Henschel. They usually pulled express passenger trains and fast goods trains, including trains such as the Rheingold. Some also recieved a streamline casing, which didn't last long. After the war they were gradually degraded to goods service before being scrapped. The NS 3737 was saved, restored and run for some time, and after a period of disuse it was again restored, with a new welded boiler(although there are rumours it is of a poor quality). Due to high costs it has been decided that it will not be restored in the short term, but this does not rule out a restoration to working order in the future... By the way, the NS 3737 was not the last Dutch steam loco to run in service for the Dutch State railways. That dubious honour went to the NS 1794, a 4-4-0 from the turn of the century that was used some time after the end of steam on Dutch rails as a stationary boiler. The engine was restored by workshops staff to working order and drove it under steam to Tilburg for it's boiler inspections. It was scrapped a few years later after the director of the railways saw it running on "his" tracks, which meant the end of a successful class of 135 locomotives. None were saved. Cheers, Rick


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