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20-VOLT-AC		#1 Posted : 11 May 2012 17:55:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 250 Location: united kingdom		Hi Guys. With all these new screw type bulbs available from china & the far east which bulbs are best for me to use on a vintage 1950's layout ? For use in 418 station / 448 lamps / 424B canopy station ? Thanks Neil (UK) 20-VOLT-AC attached the following image(s):
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Markus Schild		#2 Posted : 11 May 2012 19:28:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi Neil, These bulbs are still available from Märklin: Quote: E600100 - Glühlampe hell,19V- E5,5 10 pieces 15,00 € Recommended retail price(VPE: 10) Regards Markus
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BrandonVA		#3 Posted : 11 May 2012 21:43:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA		Slightly off topic, and often mentioned before here...but still amazed that Marklin sells parts for things 50+ years old. I think it's great!
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20-VOLT-AC		#4 Posted : 11 May 2012 21:57:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 250 Location: united kingdom		Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Slightly off topic, and often mentioned before here...but still amazed that Marklin sells parts for things 50+ years old. I think it's great! Hi Brandon. Yes i too am amazed that Marklin still has these 20 volt bulbs available, it is great . I prefer the old filament bulbs instead of the new LED type replacements that you can get now, the old types don't last as long i guess but are more original, they use more electric current though. Neil (UK)
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LMS800		#5 Posted : 11 May 2012 22:41:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 162		Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Slightly off topic, and often mentioned before here...but still amazed that Marklin sells parts for things 50+ years old. I think it's great! Hello, but the bulbs Markus mentioned are not the original ones for lamp 448, the bulbs are different in size. The old bulbs (Märklin No 499 ) were 5mm in diameter ( screwing part, E 5) , the new bulbs are 5,5 mm (E 5,5). This very small difference is the reason, that the new bulbs don't fit with many old sockets. Best regards Wolf
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Markus Schild		#6 Posted : 11 May 2012 23:18:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi, I don't remember that I ever had such difficulties, but I mostly bought the bulbs from the BRAWA- assortment, they are cheaper at my dealer. Regards Marksu
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H0		#7 Posted : 12 May 2012 00:00:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,491 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: BrandonVA ...but still amazed that Marklin sells parts for things 50+ years old. Light bulb #600100 still appears on the 1997 version of the #3000 spare part list. I don't know when the last factory-installed #600100 was sold (maybe they still sell products with it). I'm amazed how long locos like #3000 and #3078 have been in the catalogue (but with changing motor brushes and light bulbs).
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20-VOLT-AC		#8 Posted : 12 May 2012 16:21:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 250 Location: united kingdom		Hi Guy's. Thanks for the knowledge on bulbs, how many standard bulbs can i run off one Marklin 30 VA transformer ? I was thinking of having one transformer for lighting and power for electric points and another transformer for just running the LOKS. Neil (UK) 20-VOLT-AC attached the following image(s):
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LMS800		#9 Posted : 12 May 2012 17:52:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/05/2012(UTC) Posts: 162		Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Hi Guy's. Thanks for the knowledge on bulbs, how many standard bulbs can i run off one Marklin 30 VA transformer ? I was thinking of having one transformer for lighting and power for electric points and another transformer for just running the LOKS. Neil (UK) Hello Neil, I count 1 VA for each bulb ( also suggested by Märklin), thus 30 bulbs for one transformer 30 VA. A loco needs - on average - 10 VA, therefor take one transformer for lightning and switching points / signals. Best regards Wolf
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20-VOLT-AC		#10 Posted : 13 May 2012 22:23:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 250 Location: united kingdom		Originally Posted by: LMS800 Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Hi Guy's. Thanks for the knowledge on bulbs, how many standard bulbs can i run off one Marklin 30 VA transformer ? I was thinking of having one transformer for lighting and power for electric points and another transformer for just running the LOKS. Neil (UK) Hello Neil, I count 1 VA for each bulb ( also suggested by Märklin), thus 30 bulbs for one transformer 30 VA. A loco needs - on average - 10 VA, therefor take one transformer for lightning and switching points / signals. Best regards Wolf Hello Wolf. Thank you for your helpful advice on this topic, i think your vintage H0 layouts are FantasticO !! Regards Neil (UK)
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BrandonVA		#11 Posted : 14 May 2012 16:06:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA		Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Hi Brandon. Yes i too am amazed that Marklin still has these 20 volt bulbs available, it is great . I prefer the old filament bulbs instead of the new LED type replacements that you can get now, the old types don't last as long i guess but are more original, they use more electric current though. Neil (UK) I agree, I just like the colour/quality of the light better. Even with "warm" LEDs it just dosn't look as good to me (subjective of course).
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20-VOLT-AC		#12 Posted : 14 May 2012 21:30:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 250 Location: united kingdom		Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Hi Brandon. Yes i too am amazed that Marklin still has these 20 volt bulbs available, it is great . I prefer the old filament bulbs instead of the new LED type replacements that you can get now, the old types don't last as long i guess but are more original, they use more electric current though. Neil (UK) I agree, I just like the colour/quality of the light better. Even with "warm" LEDs it just dosn't look as good to me (subjective of course). Hi Brandon. Yes i am glad you agree with me that original type bulbs are better than LED's !! Regards Neil.
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JohnjeanB		#13 Posted : 14 May 2012 22:08:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,636 Location: Paris, France		Hello One type of bulb is sometimes difficult to purchase: the white color. It was used until mid 1950. Unlike transparent bulb its glass is not glossy but with a matte finish. They are easy to make yourself by using fine abrasive paper on the bulbe itself. It becomes white. Cheers Jean
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