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Mark5		#1 Posted : 24 March 2012 23:13:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,420 Location: Montreal, Canada		This is a thread that anyone can use to post photos of things they would like to identify and get some background information for their item. Hopefully the expert and amateur Marklin historians who have the catologues virtually memorized can step in and give a word or two. Here is my first one that needs identifying, not just for your own items or purchases, but things that you know of, have seen around, but are not sure what the item is, and would like to know more about. It would be helpful to know: - The date Marklin produced the item. - The Marklin catalogue number as reference. - The era and place in railroad history. - Any other particularities from Kolls or anything like that (I personally do not have a copy of this ...yet)... including auction or dealer values and availabilties. My first question ( I have three so far, and will post images as they are answered.) I recently purchased this locomotive little dampflok from ebay.de for 14,50 Euro. Is this Primex maybe? Mark5 attached the following image(s):
		DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70. In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?


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RayF		#2 Posted : 24 March 2012 23:24:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,840 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		This is from starter set 29156, 29157, 29158. Produced 2005, 2006
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.

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Mark5		#3 Posted : 24 March 2012 23:27:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,420 Location: Montreal, Canada		Thanks so much Ray! Is this digital then? Surely not for that price. -MM
		DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70. In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?


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RayF		#4 Posted : 24 March 2012 23:29:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,840 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Yes, it has a simple digital decoder, similar to the 60760. BTW, in case you didn't know, KLVM stands for "Kleine Lok Von Maerklin". Its a totally freelance design, but it has similarities to some Austrian branch line locos.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.


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H0		#5 Posted : 24 March 2012 23:54:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		You can tell from the serial number that it was made in 2005 and has digital high-efficiency propulsion. See here: https://www.marklin-user...ive-s-serial-number.aspx KLVM stands for "Kleine Lok von Märklin" (small loco from Märklin).
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS


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RayF		#6 Posted : 25 March 2012 00:07:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,840 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		It seems to be based on these locos: RayF attached the following image(s):
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.


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Mark5		#7 Posted : 25 March 2012 01:03:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,420 Location: Montreal, Canada		Thanks HO and Ray! For the price I got it for, wondering if it might be worth weathering and changing the colour scheme? Quite pleased to know it has a simple digital decoder for only 14,5 Euro. Haven't received it yet. Might also end up giving it to one of my girls. Learning everyday... did you know I read in the Walthers that "HO" stands for "Half O"? Will post another a couple more mystery engine bodies I have after I put one more little girl to bed. - Mark
		DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70. In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?


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Mark5		#8 Posted : 25 March 2012 05:23:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,420 Location: Montreal, Canada		Ok, here are a couple more ... one I think, cannot be Marklin, since it doesn't seem to have room enough in the body for a reversal unit. The other which is obviously Marklin, is something I have never seen before, and being only familiar with the insides of analog loks, I have no idea what kind of motor would sit in this thing. Any help is welcome. Would love to know the history. Would not be surprised if this Marklin lok comes from a kit and is a "freelance" model as well. Edit: Just noticed my photos only upload as links to the images, instead of the images themselves. Anyone tell why that is, my images are too big? Edit: Yes they are. About 500kb is the max size to show directly in the forum /Webmaster Edited by moderator 25 March 2012 22:07:45(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified Mark5 attached the following image(s):
		DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70. In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?


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Ian555		#9 Posted : 25 March 2012 07:28:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,240 Location: Scotland		Hi Mark, Here you can see my 2 KLVM's running on my hillside section of the layout, a long side a My World Set 29200 Ian.

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H0		#10 Posted : 25 March 2012 09:27:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Hi, Mark! Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal ... did you know I read in the Walthers that "HO" stands for "Half O"? I didn't know you read that at Walthers. Did you know it's "H0" in Europe and "HO" elsewhere? I guess your images are too big. This makes looking at the images a bit difficult. Better resize them to 800x600 or less so they show in the thread.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS


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steventrain		#11 Posted : 25 March 2012 10:37:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: RayF This is from starter set 29156, 29157, 29158. Produced 2005, 2006 Anyone know how many was made?
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H0		#12 Posted : 25 March 2012 12:37:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal The other which is obviously Marklin, is something I have never seen before, and being only familiar with the insides of analog loks, I have no idea what kind of motor would sit in this thing. The set 0050 came 1985 to celebrate 50 years of H0 (or 00 rather). It contained two analogue locos with DC motors (from Bühler), flywheels and wormdrive.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS

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Markus Schild		#13 Posted : 25 March 2012 13:38:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi, The locomotive-shell comes from a FLEISCHMANN Pacific ref. 1365 like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36032475@N07/3697803469/ Regards Markus
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H0		#14 Posted : 25 March 2012 14:26:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		The link from Markus' post (click here)
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS

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RayF		#15 Posted : 25 March 2012 14:37:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,840 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal Ok, here are a couple more ... one I think, cannot be Marklin, since it doesn't seem to have room enough in the body for a reversal unit. The other which is obviously Marklin, is something I have never seen before, and being only familiar with the insides of analog loks, I have no idea what kind of motor would sit in this thing. Any help is welcome. Would love to know the history. Would not be surprised if this Marklin lok comes from a kit and is a "freelance" model as well. Edit: Just noticed my photos only upload as links to the images, instead of the images themselves. Anyone tell why that is, my images are too big? The Marklin loco is from the 0050 set, as Tom pointed out. It is a replica of the old R700 loco. This is what it's supposed to look like inside: The set came with another replica loco and two trains:
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.

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Mark5		#16 Posted : 25 March 2012 21:51:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,420 Location: Montreal, Canada		...to all the help! Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Mark, Here you can see my 2 KLVM's running on my hillside section of the layout, a long side a My World Set 29200 Ian. Thanks Ian, they look great zooming around your set in tandem. Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal The other which is obviously Marklin, is something I have never seen before, and being only familiar with the insides of analog loks, I have no idea what kind of motor would sit in this thing. The set 0050 came 1985 to celebrate 50 years of H0 (or 00 rather). It contained two analogue locos with DC motors (from Bühler), flywheels and wormdrive. Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal ... I have no idea what kind of motor would sit in this thing. [...] The Marklin loco is from the 0050 set, as Tom pointed out. It is a replica of the old R700 loco. This is what it's supposed to look like inside: So that is a flywheel on there, eh? That's pretty impressive looking. Is that standard with DC motors? And how do they work on an AC set if they are DC? Originally Posted by: H0 Hi, Mark! Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal ... did you know I read in the Walthers that "HO" stands for "Half O"? I didn't know you read that at Walthers. Did you know it's "H0" in Europe and "HO" elsewhere? I guess your images are too big. This makes looking at the images a bit difficult. Better resize them to 800x600 or less so they show in the thread. Ahhh... two mysteries explained. I always thought that the difference between O an 0 was just a "type-OH" (mixed up HO! typo) More mysteries of mine to post later. Thanks for all the help. Great pic of the Fleischmann Pacific Express Locomotive too, thanks! So what should I do with the shell??
		DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70. In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?


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H0		#17 Posted : 25 March 2012 22:13:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: MM-MarkMontreal And how do they work on an AC set if they are DC? The electronic reversing unit converts AC to DC.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS


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