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 Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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Hi all!
By request I'm starting a new thread about this wonderful model of the Big Boy by Märklin and the real thing.
There have been many questions by us users about the models that you can't find in the catalogue, google (until now), etc.
Please share informative pictures, videos and experiences.
The first information I can contribute to is about the newest model 37994. I also think some of this applies to 37991, 37992 and 37993. Could somone confirm this as my 91 and 93 are in there boxes?
All functions are separate and can be mapped to whatever button you want. You also can map functions to "drive" and "stop". The smoke generator are. On 94 the smoke generator contacts are connected to AUX3 and can therefore be assigned to another button. On the 91 model this is permanently on. On the 93 I don't remember how the functions are mapped.
If you want to do some service under the engine like oiling it's best to turn it upside by following these steps (I have done this twice)
1. Put the engine on the wooden base and secure it with all the 3 screws.
2. Remove the big foam from the wooden box and turn it upside down.
3. Carefully put the base with the engine upside down in the foam.
4. Carefully unscrew the base and remove the base carefully.
The hardest part is to secure it to the base again as the foam is deeper than the engine. You have to push the base in the foam AND find the holes for the screws and secure the screws. Then it's just to turn the base with the engine carefully out of the foam. |
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Hi David, Thanks, this will be a very interesting thread.  Ian.
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I have 37993 and 37994 is on the way!
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37994 on the way - should get it this weekend  This is my first HO purchase in many many months. |
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Here's the real thing: BB 4023 in Omaha, NE  |
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi all, Little and large. BigBoy and Limmat. Ian.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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 Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,689 Location: United Kingdom
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Nice pictures, Dave.  |
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy. |
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Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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Really nice contributions by everyone! Ian, I noted that there´s a railing that´s loose on your Big Boy on the first pictures. Thanks for the comparison shot! The videos were great! I´ve shared one of them on my Facebook already. |
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Joined: 06/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 883 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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I have a 37993 and have pre-ordered a 37994. Just waiting for the 37994 to get delivered to the States.
Robert
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Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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Nice Robert. Seems that most people here have the 37993 and also have bought/preordered 37994. |
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Joined: 08/03/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,042 Location: Gold Coast, Australia.
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 37992 BigBoy being tweaked with my lokprogrammer. Dave Banks attached the following image(s): |
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The photos below show some other types of locomotives used alongside "Big Boys" on Sherman Hill, Wyoming which is where the locos worked. I hope they are of interest to you.   The "Big Boy" is No. 4020 and is a brass model by Key Brass and factory painted. I have Big boys from Trix and Marklin but these are screwed to their "planks" and this loco was easiest to use as a comparison. The centre loco is a "Veranda Turbine" by Lionel and has sound and DCC control. These locos were introduced in the 50's and three types were produced and were discontinued when increased oil prices made them uneconomic. About 50 were built in total in 4,500 and 8500 HP versions. The Other locos are EMD GP9 A&B "Road switcher" units which became the predominant type of loco used for freight throughout the USA as they could be combined into suitable "Horsepowers" to suit the load and all controlled from one loco. The VW "Draisine" is included for size comparison and is by Eheim/Brawa. Regards, Colin.
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi Colin, Wonderful models, thanks for the photo's. Ian.
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi all, Here's my Insider 37990 BigBoy on the layout. Ian.
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi all,
e-mail this morning from Lokshop....order status - 37994 - RS - ordered at producer.
Looks like I'm waiting another week.
Ian.
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Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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Ian, what button do you use for the dog sound? |
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Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA
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Here is my 37990 that I just got. Best timing of a new post for me. |
DT
Now powered by ECoS II unit#2, RocRail
era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's. |
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Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister  Ian, what button do you use for the dog sound? Yes Ian I tried to find that button too, I think do to the old design using two decoders it must be a combo of two functions just as the whistel changes with f4 pushed. I hit some random functions and it meowed. :-) |
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Now powered by ECoS II unit#2, RocRail
era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's. |
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Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Ian, what button do you use for the dog sound? Yes Ian I tried to find that button too, I think do to the old design using two decoders it must be a combo of two functions just as the whistel changes with f4 pushed. I hit some random functions and it meowed. :-) |
DT
Now powered by ECoS II unit#2, RocRail
era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's. |
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Ian, what button do you use for the dog sound? Hi David, I use the woof button.  Ian.
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi Darrin, Enjoyed watching your video. Ian.
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi Darrin, Sometimes, when I'm in the train room and I am recording, the "woof noise" just automatically starts. Ian.
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I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Loverly videos too, friends ...  Well, I do own just #4012 (M's release #37991 from year 2005) ... and being restricted to a small layout she'll be my only BB, alas  |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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 Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai
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Are there any visual differences between the 37993 and 37994? |
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Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Tom, you were faster than me. Now I see the difference on the tender. Look at the picture from behind. On the 37994 it´s perfectly curved at the coal bunker, whereas the others aren´t equally curved. Thanks! |
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Hi David, Wonderful photos, thanks for the time taken to set that all up. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Tom, you were faster than me. I only searched for pictures - you marked and uploaded pictures. BTW: another difference: my 37993 came with ESU decoder, the new 37994 comes with Märklin decoder and sounds differently. I prefer the ESU sound, but some prefer the Märklin sound. Earlier Big Boys have the pre-mfx Märklin sound which is less dynamic than modern sound decoders. Some say that some 37993 also came with Märklin decoders. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Who knows... As there are different batches and we know that Märklin don´t inform their costumers of any changes. I actually prefer the newest one, Märklin. Mostly because of the click-clack sound. But I´m a little worried about the new motor. It will be interesting to follow all the Youtube-videos. Here´s my latest. All sound functions on all the 4 Big Boys at the same time! Now the pipe is fixed. There´s a small hole where the pipe's peg will fit in. If I were to keep only one loco-model it would be one of the Big Boys! Big Boy test |
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Tom and David,
Thanks for the nice pictures. |
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister
The 37994 is much more sensitive on the tracks than the older models.
Why change something that´s good??
True words, David - talk about money ... BTW - by "more sensitive" do you mean dirt ? Well, from my ~70 locos my BB (year 2005 #37991 w/ MFX-decoder) is the one acting extremely picky when it comes to dusty track  |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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Originally Posted by: john black Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister
The 37994 is much more sensitive on the tracks than the older models.
Why change something that´s good??
True words, David - talk about money ... BTW - by "more sensitive" do you mean dirt ? Well, from my ~70 locos my BB (year 2005 #37991 w/ MFX-decoder) is the one acting extremely picky when it comes to dusty track John, I think it depends on the length of the pick-up shoe. I didn´t measure the pick-up shoes, but I think the new one is shorter. The pick-up shoe on the 37994 is similar to the older ones Märklin have used, like on the 3005. |
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Yes! The problem with the screw to the front truck is back!! The screw is really loose and I suspect the screw loosened up when the loco was running on my oval. It unscrewed totally when I tried to screw it back on the base upside-down. It´s possible to screw it on using a small screw-driver at the same angle as I show you on the picture. You don´t need to remove the motor, just the front decoder and the smoke generator contact holders and use very much light. Oh dear! I had the same problem with 37993, the screw was floating around inside the box when I got the loco. Hopefully 37994 is better - mine is somewhere between NZ Customs and me!
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Yes! The problem with the screw to the front truck is back!! The screw is really loose and I suspect the screw loosened up when the loco was running on my oval. It unscrewed totally when I tried to screw it back on the base upside-down. It´s possible to screw it on using a small screw-driver at the same angle as I show you on the picture. You don´t need to remove the motor, just the front decoder and the smoke generator contact holders and use very much light. Oh dear! I had the same problem with 37993, the screw was floating around inside the box when I got the loco. Hopefully 37994 is better - mine is somewhere between NZ Customs and me! Just telling the truth. 37994 has the same problem... After I took the pictures from under the train I was supposed to screw it back on the board. I began in front and I accidently pulled too much. Then the front truck was loose... They should have a better design. Propably this design makes it easier to assemble the loco. The screw is too loose. The screw was loose on arrival on the 37990... |
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I have the 22598 BB UP 4011 - It is a trix version, I got it in 2010 from ETS (Germany), The loco has been my flagship in my layouts in Dubai and Fujairah UAE and now in Thailand. Unfortunately due to transportation, it developed a little jerking problem but I had it fixed and now it runs smoothly as before. What a loco!  Uploaded with ImageShack.usEdited by user 09 May 2012 16:03:45(UTC)
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Hi David, Great video. Ian.
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Hi all, e-mail from Lokshop, order for 37994 shipped today. Ian.
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand
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Thankfully, there were no loose screws when I received my 37994. Here's a photo I took of it. 
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Hi David, Great photo, looking forward to my own one arriving. Ian.
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Joined: 06/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 883 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Picked up my Big Boy on Wednesday ... awesome looking loco!!
Robert
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Very lovely, Ian. |
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy. |
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Hi Stephen, Thanks. Was a busy morning with parcels , had a boxed 3075 arrive as well. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Yes! The problem with the screw to the front truck is back!! The screw is really loose and I suspect the screw loosened up when the loco was running on my oval. It unscrewed totally when I tried to screw it back on the base upside-down. It´s possible to screw it on using a small screw-driver at the same angle as I show you on the picture. You don´t need to remove the motor, just the front decoder and the smoke generator contact holders and use very much light. Oh dear! I had the same problem with 37993, the screw was floating around inside the box when I got the loco. Hopefully 37994 is better - mine is somewhere between NZ Customs and me! Hi David & BD, Mine's on the way from Germany from LS too, as of Monday Morning, I hope you didn't & I don't have a pause and another contribution to HM Customs, Dave ?  As for this loose screw business, I thought it was the screw holding the front truck or bogie from underneath but David's pic shows him delving into the inards, so what screw is the problem David/Dave ? What do I need to look out for, as if we should need to  Dennis tells me he had a loose screw in the box when he received his 37990, brand new ex factory, a few years ago too  You would think Marklin would have this problem solved by now, does the screw come loose with use on these Locos PS; Lovely pics David, Dave and Ian |
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" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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