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Offline KingBuick  
#1 Posted : 04 January 2012 17:46:59(UTC)
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Hi everyone. I just wanted to start a topic on the ALCO PA-1 models Märklin has made over the years. I have two: 29571 fx NYC and the Santa Fe double unit.

What version(s) do you have? Please respond in this topic about it.

As a side note, I wonder if Märklin will make anymore American models this coming year? I hope a PRR PA-1 or GG1. That'd be nice! BigGrin

Cheers!

Tadzio.
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Offline john black  
#2 Posted : 04 January 2012 18:42:48(UTC)
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#29570 NYC (2x)
#37611 AT&SF (1x)
#37612 D&RGW (2x) *
#37613 SP (2x) *

*) (former) 2nd A-units OEM decoder/speaker/pickup-shoe equipped thus independently operational.

Originally Posted by: KingBuick Go to Quoted Post

I wonder if M will make anymore American models this coming year?

Me too ... LOL
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline john black  
#3 Posted : 04 January 2012 18:49:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: KingBuick Go to Quoted Post

I hope a PRR GG1.

Done long time back. Go for #29490 / #37490 green PRR livery or #37492 brown PRR livery.
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
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Offline keigwin  
#4 Posted : 04 January 2012 19:02:24(UTC)
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Tadzio, I have the same 2 models you mentioned, as well as the 29490 PRR GG1 set mentioned below. Starter Set 29571 was my first Marklin set, so it has seen a lot of use!BigGrin
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Offline keigwin  
#5 Posted : 04 January 2012 19:12:37(UTC)
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I also have Item 37610 - UP Class 600 PA-1 loco
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Offline dntower85  
#6 Posted : 04 January 2012 19:20:46(UTC)
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I have the 37611 A-A set


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Offline klarinettmeister  
#7 Posted : 04 January 2012 20:47:28(UTC)
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I have only these:

37610+49610 UP
26490 Blue Bird

I´d die to get my hands on the Santa Fe...
Offline john black  
#8 Posted : 04 January 2012 21:28:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

I´d die to get my hands on the Santa Fe ...

LOLThumpUp - you have my deep understanding, David.
Do recall her price tag of just €200 for #37611, then.
Brand new in the box. Should 've bought three ... CryingSneaky
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#9 Posted : 04 January 2012 21:46:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: john black Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

I´d die to get my hands on the Santa Fe ...

LOLThumpUp - you have my deep understanding, David.
Do recall her price tag of just €200 for #37611, then.
Brand new in the box. Should 've bought three ... CryingSneaky


Yeah. I could have bought her, but I bought the UP instead... Damn...
Offline john black  
#10 Posted : 04 January 2012 21:56:42(UTC)
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No problem, David - both liveries are as beautiful as can be ...
But then I do miss your UP. We oughta have a common layout Tongue
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide

Offline klarinettmeister  
#11 Posted : 04 January 2012 22:07:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: john black Go to Quoted Post
No problem, David - both liveries are as beautiful as can be ...
But then I do miss your UP. We oughta have a common layout Tongue


Yeah, that would have been nice. BigGrin
Offline alonso231gery  
#12 Posted : 04 January 2012 22:15:08(UTC)
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I do have the NYC version from the starter set, it is a noisy and weak model but still big and impressive, there are other better US models.
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Offline jeehring  
#13 Posted : 04 January 2012 22:20:24(UTC)
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I'll pick my 37613 up next month to the shop . He still has few PA1 in stock. From Rio Grande or SP , I wonder which Cie is the most famous or has the best or brightest image in the American mind and for Americans from the USA ? Which one is a legend ? (which Cie or which line )
The Euro is now stabilized around 1.30 $... He will not get higher (and probably will continue to go down ...1.20 $ should be ideal for Europe) So, I think Marklin will come back to the production of US models soon.

Another good new for Marklin is about the Hungarian currency which is seriously falling down...(they have a factory in Gyor-Hungary)
Offline john black  
#14 Posted : 05 January 2012 00:11:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post

From Rio Grande or SP, I wonder which Cie is the most famous or has the best or brightest image in
the American mind and for Americans from the USA ? Which one is a legend ? (which Cie or which line)

Hi Roland Smile ... now you really got me, that's one most difficult question Blushing

Frankly - I do love all of 'em - plus a few smaller railroads too, of course.
But if you go for fame or size you surely are right on the money by looking at my signature.
Since our M always showed excellent sense by releasing the right companies, locos and cars ThumpUp
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#15 Posted : 05 January 2012 00:44:10(UTC)
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None! (Unfortunately)
Offline eduard71  
#16 Posted : 05 January 2012 01:49:52(UTC)
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HiI have two, the Santa Fe and the Southern Pacific. The Southern has a MFX decoder and better sounds, also it drives in a better way the two motors and the color is just impressive. The Santa Fe one is also a beautiful machine, but the sounds and the problems driving the two engines have make me think on making it an upgrade to MFX.
The Alco PA 1 was a great looking locomotive, unfortunately it had a lot of problems with the original motors and electrical components making it an unsuccessful locomotive. Almost all locomotives were scrapped or sold to other countries. One has returned to USA and it is on restoration, only one operative in Mexico (actually with the SP colors) and one non operative displayed in Brazil.

Regards
Eduardo
Offline Deborail  
#17 Posted : 05 January 2012 03:45:49(UTC)
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I have the TRIX ALCO PA-1 22805 Union Pacific since last May.BigGrin
George

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Offline foumaro  
#18 Posted : 05 January 2012 05:22:50(UTC)
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I do not have any ALCO but my first impression of the new marklin items for the year 2012 saying to me that i will
have one or more in the year 2012.BigGrin
Offline H0  
#19 Posted : 05 January 2012 09:06:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
but the sounds and the problems driving the two engines have make me think on making it an upgrade to MFX.
AFAIK all ALCO PA-1 models with mfx have ESU decoders. The new MäTrix decoders (used in recent F7s) do not sound as good as those - not sure if there is a difference with respect to motor control.
Regards
Tom
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Offline pmrenier  
#20 Posted : 05 January 2012 15:49:43(UTC)
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Just purchased the 37610 UP.Cool

Paul
Offline Frankenbahner  
#21 Posted : 06 January 2012 13:03:42(UTC)
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I have a NYC PA1 double unit. A relly impressive loco!

Regards,
Florian
H0 3-rail AC with DCC, MM and mfx, 2-rail DC streetcars, and N gauge
Offline mmervine  
#22 Posted : 06 January 2012 15:22:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
Almost all locomotives were scrapped or sold to other countries. One has returned to USA and it is on restoration, only one operative in Mexico (actually with the SP colors) and one non operative displayed in Brazil.

Regards
Eduardo


There are two units in the US. One almost restored and the other getting started. See here:

http://www.nkp190.com/

http://www.museumoftheam...jects/ProjectALCOPA.aspx

Märklin C-track, Digital, ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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Offline jvuye  
#23 Posted : 06 January 2012 16:15:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
I'll pick my 37613 up next month to the shop . He still has few PA1 in stock. From Rio Grande or SP , I wonder which Cie is the most famous or has the best or brightest image in the American mind and for Americans from the USA ? Which one is a legend ? (which Cie or which line )


There could be a long debate on "Legendary US Railroad.." and who's the "Most Famous"!
Actually, in the US, Model Railroaders characterize themselves first by the RR they model!

Pennsylvania certainly was very much the King of the road in the East : the races stories between NYC and PRR between Chicago and New York, Horseshoe Curve and long coal drags in the Apalachians are certainly the stuff of legends

SP is cetrainly the most recognizable, especially their famous "Warbonnet" livery.
They invented luxury trains witha flair: the "Chiefs" could never be equalled!

But my vote goes to Union Pacific!
Always showing the way for bigger and better power (Big Boy, Turbines, Centennials...etc).
Also they build a good part of the transcontinental line, and they are the only survivor of the "original" 19th century RR companies

You guessed it: I have the (dual unit) Alco PA in UP colors!
Strong pulller: 60 US freight cars? No problem!

Cheers
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learned to be better and had great success!
Offline DamonKelly  
#24 Posted : 06 January 2012 16:48:43(UTC)
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I've got the set 37610+49610 (UP A+A)
I acquired them in St Louis MO, even!

Actually, they need a service -- the traction tyres need replacing, it seems...
--
Cheers,
Damon
Offline Nielsenr  
#25 Posted : 06 January 2012 18:51:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
I'll pick my 37613 up next month to the shop . He still has few PA1 in stock. From Rio Grande or SP , I wonder which Cie is the most famous or has the best or brightest image in the American mind and for Americans from the USA ? Which one is a legend ? (which Cie or which line )
The Euro is now stabilized around 1.30 $... He will not get higher (and probably will continue to go down ...1.20 $ should be ideal for Europe) So, I think Marklin will come back to the production of US models soon.

Another good new for Marklin is about the Hungarian currency which is seriously falling down...(they have a factory in Gyor-Hungary)



Jeehring,

I have a friend looking for a 37612, does your dealer have one and if so, what is the price?? Do they ship to the US??

Thanks!!

Robert
Offline jeehring  
#26 Posted : 06 January 2012 21:24:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nielsenr Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
I'll pick my 37613 up next month to the shop . He still has few PA1 in stock. From Rio Grande or SP , I wonder which Cie is the most famous or has the best or brightest image in the American mind and for Americans from the USA ? Which one is a legend ? (which Cie or which line )
The Euro is now stabilized around 1.30 $... He will not get higher (and probably will continue to go down ...1.20 $ should be ideal for Europe) So, I think Marklin will come back to the production of US models soon.

Another good new for Marklin is about the Hungarian currency which is seriously falling down...(they have a factory in Gyor-Hungary)



Jeehring,

I have a friend looking for a 37612, does your dealer have one and if so, what is the price?? Do they ship to the US??

Thanks!!

Robert


I think there is no problem to ship to the USA, he already has some American customers overseas....
I'll will ask him, then I'll send you an E-mail....
Offline Nielsenr  
#27 Posted : 06 January 2012 21:34:20(UTC)
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Thanks Jeehring!!

Robert
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#28 Posted : 06 January 2012 23:06:13(UTC)
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Speaking strictly for the PA-1 (and not the railroad itself), the D&RG PA's are by far more famous. The railway used them on a lot fo different trains. The SP ones are Daylight only in the livery marklin offered, and I have to question how many sets of those they had. (off topic, but the only locomotive really well known for this livery was the GS-4 steamer)
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Offline john black  
#29 Posted : 06 January 2012 23:17:56(UTC)
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ThumpUp
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline mmervine  
#30 Posted : 07 January 2012 00:51:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Speaking strictly for the PA-1 (and not the railroad itself), the D&RG PA's are by far more famous. The railway used them on a lot fo different trains. The SP ones are Daylight only in the livery marklin offered, and I have to question how many sets of those they had. (off topic, but the only locomotive really well known for this livery was the GS-4 steamer)


SP had 24 PA-1's, 6 PB-1's, 27 PA-2's and 7 PB-2's

Good info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALCO_PA
Märklin C-track, Digital, ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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Offline Caboose  
#31 Posted : 07 January 2012 11:49:22(UTC)
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I Have the UP 37610 + 49610 and i really like the models.
But as somebody said above, 37610 runs best without the
booster 49610. However, the heavy weight and look is very
impressive - Hard to say no to this models BigGrin

Marklin made the UP 600 passanger serie. IRL the UP did not
use those locos as 600's so meny years. After some XX years,
UP renumbered some of the 600's to 4-digits numbers, some
was sold and some was rebuilt. Because of this, its not easy
today to find pictures of a UP PA as 600's or even 4-digits.
(I have a few in my computor)

In my opinion, M already made the 3 best looking color schemes:
Union Pacific, Santa fe red/yellow/silver warbonnet, and the
Rio Grande 4-stripe.

But there is ofcause meny meny more color schemes to thoose.

Example: Rio Grande used 3 different color schemes on PA's
(1)Yellow/Black (2)Yellow/Silver 4-stripe (3)Yellow/Silver 1-stripe

New Haven also had 3 different color schemes. Black/White/Red the latest.

And theres a lot more. So no problem to find new PA's to make if M want.
Sweden & USA
Offline DamonKelly  
#32 Posted : 07 January 2012 16:09:12(UTC)
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I've got the UP set 37610 + 49610 (bought in St Louis, MO, no less...)

Last week I gave it a gallop at NevW's, and lubricated it (since I don't remember doing it since I bought it)

It started "surging" -- the motor was racing, but the track speed was slow, and it had trouble pulling the California Zephyr set.

I suspect either:
  1. The traction tyres have perished, or
  2. I accidentally got oil under the traction tyres.
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Cheers,
Damon
Offline swanpondwv  
#33 Posted : 07 January 2012 16:23:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: alonso231gery Go to Quoted Post
I do have the NYC version from the starter set, it is a noisy and weak model but still big and impressive, there are other better US models.



Interesting, I have both NYC starter sets, fx and mfx decoders. They both run well but the fx engine runs much quieter than the mfx engine. I've not had any concerns as to pulling power with either one.

Which engine do you have?

I also had the Trix double PA1 engine, 22805, that ran great and pulled like crazy. But I was very disappointed to find it had no sound!

Bill
Bill
Offline jeehring  
#34 Posted : 09 January 2012 16:11:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nielsenr Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
)



Jeehring,

I have a friend looking for a 37612, does your dealer have one and if so, what is the price?? Do they ship to the US??

Thanks!!

Robert


Robert : E-Mail sent .
Offline foumaro  
#35 Posted : 22 January 2012 05:31:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: pmrenier Go to Quoted Post
Just purchased the 37610 UP.Cool

Paul

Have you got the loco?Tell us your impression.
Offline foumaro  
#36 Posted : 27 January 2012 15:43:05(UTC)
foumaro

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Originally Posted by: KingBuick Go to Quoted Post
Hi everyone. I just wanted to start a topic on the ALCO PA-1 models Märklin has made over the years. I have two: 29571 fx NYC and the Santa Fe double unit.

What version(s) do you have? Please respond in this topic about it.

As a side note, I wonder if Märklin will make anymore American models this coming year? I hope a PRR PA-1 or GG1. That'd be nice! BigGrin

Cheers!

Tadzio.

Your hope became reality.A new GG1 is coming.Save money my friend.
Offline NZMarklinist  
#37 Posted : 27 January 2012 16:01:54(UTC)
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You guys might be well pleased with the up coming "Export Models" even if they're not exactly PA-1's

I might have to get a bit happy with a lil 'ol UP Steam Engine Wink Drool LOL
Glen
Auckland NZ

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Offline Marius in Africa  
#38 Posted : 28 January 2012 17:48:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: john black Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

I´d die to get my hands on the Santa Fe ...

LOLThumpUp - you have my deep understanding, David.
Do recall her price tag of just €200 for #37611, then.
Brand new in the box. Should 've bought three ... CryingSneaky


Yeah. I could have bought her, but I bought the UP instead... Damn...


Do not stress about the Sante Fe David. Marklin will release it again, you will get another change.

Regards
Marius in Africa

HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#39 Posted : 30 January 2012 10:24:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: john black Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

I´d die to get my hands on the Santa Fe ...

LOLThumpUp - you have my deep understanding, David.
Do recall her price tag of just €200 for #37611, then.
Brand new in the box. Should 've bought three ... CryingSneaky


Yeah. I could have bought her, but I bought the UP instead... Damn...


Do not stress about the Sante Fe David. Marklin will release it again, you will get another change.

Regards


Propably they will. BigGrin
Offline 610  
#40 Posted : 02 February 2012 04:34:45(UTC)
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I have the Southern Pacific PA-1 A-A Unit by Märklin. I´m satisfied with it. I think that together with the Big Boy it´s the strongest puller I have in my collection. The only bad thing is that it is way too loud! I don´t even need to turn on the sound, since the motor itself is VERY noisy!
My PA-1 is destined to pull a 13 car SP Sunset Limited consist in future as this is 100% prototypical. But authentic cars are not in sight yet, so it will occasionally pull my Golden State when the E7´s take a rest.
Offline foumaro  
#41 Posted : 02 February 2012 08:58:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 610 Go to Quoted Post
I have the Southern Pacific PA-1 A-A Unit by Märklin. I´m satisfied with it. I think that together with the Big Boy it´s the strongest puller I have in my collection. The only bad thing is that it is way too loud! I don´t even need to turn on the sound, since the motor itself is VERY noisy!
My PA-1 is destined to pull a 13 car SP Sunset Limited consist in future as this is 100% prototypical. But authentic cars are not in sight yet, so it will occasionally pull my Golden State when the E7´s take a rest.

I am waiting a signal from the local post office to pickup 37610 Union Pacific and 37613 Southern Pacific.You are mention at 13 cat SP Sunset consist.Is these cars OK with marklin c track?Who is the
producer of these cars?Maybe your loco needs some oil and the motor is too noicy.
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#42 Posted : 02 February 2012 22:45:35(UTC)
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26490 WABASH
29570 NYC
37/49610 UP
37/49611 AT&SF
37612 D&RGW
37613 SP

Yup, pretty much every model made Blushing
CS, Denmark/Germany Ep. I - V, Switzerland Ep. II - V, USA Ep. III/IV
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#43 Posted : 02 February 2012 23:39:53(UTC)
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I am waiting a signal from the local post office to pickup 37610 Union Pacific and 37613 Southern Pacific.You are mention at 13 cat SP Sunset consist.Is these cars OK with marklin c track?Who is the
producer of these cars?Maybe your loco needs some oil and the motor is too noicy.

Well, the Sunset Limited cars don´t even exist yet. If you want to have a prototypical correct train, you need to buy brass models that are available of this train, which are extremly expensive, and they absolutely don´t run on Märklin tracks, since they even need more than R5 to pass through curves! Unfortunately, nothing in plastic is available. There are many prototypical Daylight plastic cars produced by many manufacturers in Ho scale, but no Sunset Limited cars. The only plastic car available on the market that really is correct for the Sunset Limited is the Walthers 10-6 Budd sleeper. Well, with only one proper car there is still no way for me have this train yet.
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#44 Posted : 03 February 2012 01:25:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: alonso231gery Go to Quoted Post
I do have the NYC version from the starter set, it is a noisy and weak model but still big and impressive, there are other better US models.



Interesting, I have both NYC starter sets, fx and mfx decoders. They both run well but the fx engine runs much quieter than the mfx engine. I've not had any concerns as to pulling power with either one.

Which engine do you have?

I also had the Trix double PA1 engine, 22805, that ran great and pulled like crazy. But I was very disappointed to find it had no sound!

Bill


Hello Bill sorry for the late reply, i was disapointed with the NYC version, because my other US locos set my standards quite high, for example the PA-1 is far inferior compared with the GG1.
An outsider.
I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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#45 Posted : 03 February 2012 01:28:32(UTC)
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I´d die to get my hands on the Santa Fe ...

LOLThumpUp - you have my deep understanding, David.
Do recall her price tag of just €200 for #37611, then.
Brand new in the box. Should 've bought three ... CryingSneaky


Yeah. I could have bought her, but I bought the UP instead... Damn...


Do not stress about the Sante Fe David. Marklin will release it again, you will get another change.

Regards


Propably they will. BigGrin

Yes sure they will propably create a very limited edition (2000 pieces)Cursing
An outsider.
I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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#46 Posted : 09 February 2012 14:51:51(UTC)
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I got the first one in my hands 37610-49610 Union Pacific.It is the best marklin loco i have ever seen.
Heavy machine with top guality motor,great sounds,great detail on the shell of the loco.The most impressive is the quality of the paint.I am very huppy with my choise.I am expecting the second one the Southern Pacific 37613.I think that i will get all of them.BigGrin
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#47 Posted : 14 February 2012 08:38:55(UTC)
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KingB, I've got a few. Look up the pics on 'Equity Junction' on p2 of the 'Me and my layout' section on this forum. Several PA-1's, singles and doubles, and a F-7. Also some steamers, Big Boy and a Mikado and a GP-35 and a Heisler steamer. The latter 2 were converted to 3R and are other brands.


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#48 Posted : 23 February 2012 04:40:29(UTC)
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I got the second unit,37613 Southern Pacific.A great model too,have better sounds than the Union Pacific.The colors
are great.I am looking now fot the third one,Rio Grande 37612.If anyone of you find these models got them if you can
we are talking about great machines.
Offline mmervine  
#49 Posted : 07 March 2012 03:26:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I got the second unit,37613 Southern Pacific.A great model too,have better sounds than the Union Pacific.The colors
are great.I am looking now fot the third one,Rio Grande 37612.If anyone of you find these models got them if you can
we are talking about great machines.



A 37612 set was just posted on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/...372bef74b#ht_1696wt_1185
Märklin C-track, Digital, ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#50 Posted : 07 March 2012 03:40:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mmervine Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I got the second unit,37613 Southern Pacific.A great model too,have better sounds than the Union Pacific.The colors
are great.I am looking now fot the third one,Rio Grande 37612.If anyone of you find these models got them if you can
we are talking about great machines.



A 37612 set was just posted on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/...372bef74b#ht_1696wt_1185



Same vendor has the Santa Fe 37611 & 49611 models also for sale, and bidding is very low at the moment. Wink
Glen
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