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Offline ak_marklineer  
#1 Posted : 14 October 2011 09:51:11(UTC)
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I purchased this Lok from a gent in Aussie via ebay, and is my second digital Roco, it landed here in NZ for NZ I consider this to be good value for such an attractive Locomotive, the detailing is excellent with nice little touches like photo etched number plates,(not yet applied) painted loco drivers/engineer etc add to the package, it's running characteristics seem excellent, (I've run it for a total of about thirty minutes) it runs sweetly on C track and also the K track of the club layout, it was very quiet compared to some of my Marklin Locos and pulled a consist of Fleischmann coaches rather prototypically, can anyone explain to my fellow club members as to why it has a Grey roof? I haven't the answer you see. This Lok may well be worthy of a sound module and steam tube in the near future, I will need to discuss this with "The Train Doctor" and gather his thoughts. I will certainly consider Roco made items in the future, well made (though possibly fragile)and highly detailed.
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User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#2 Posted : 14 October 2011 11:08:01(UTC)
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The one thing that puts me off Roco steam locos is that many of them have the motor in the tender. Does your Br01 have it's motor in the tender, Steve?
Offline applor  
#3 Posted : 14 October 2011 14:00:29(UTC)
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what don't you like about the motor in the tender?

Looks like a great, detailed loco!
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Offline river6109  
#4 Posted : 14 October 2011 14:03:43(UTC)
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Dave,
I agree with you, I was lucky with my DR 18201, this loco apparently uses 2 tenders and Roco bought out a second tender and also a loco with 2 tenders. I've motorized the 2nd tender and now it can haul the amount of carriages.
Another Roco Steam loco I have in my posession and its a 2' 10' 0', a Swiss model Ce 5/6, a beautiful steam loco but when it comes to pulling power (St. Gotthard line) it is hopeless.
I wouldn't mind getting a second one of these bauties but I think it's not getting to the point.
It surprises me and the same goes for Marklin, one one hand they have this inspiration to bring out or introduce new technology, e.g. BR 10 with dynamic steam and yet the haven't solved a fundamental problem with the pulling power of any tender loco unless you use 2 locos.
I've written about Marklin and the Motorplate with drum armatures (Brushshaft in another topic) which hasn't been improved or modified since the 1970's.

There seems to be a movement, if the loco is not prototypical they are so scared about the critics finding a verdict of incompetence or not good enough.
Some have been critical about the shaft coming from the tender to the main Driving axle (and this is not the right term because the main drivng axles are in the tender.

(Employees at Roco are so intrenched with their models, they refer to the main driving wheels in the tender) and this is where the irony starts on one hand it should be as prototypical and on the other hand, oh well, its just a model.

All they had to do add a rubber tyre to one of the front driving axle via a driving shaft and they would have solved the problem for once and ever, but no, they said it may interfere with the braking shoes.

I personally feel, looking at the detail of these Roco steamlocos if they solve this tender driven problem they could sell a thousand more locos, but who are we, to suggest we could have a point of interest, I even suggested it as a sparepart to be delivered with the loco with other words give the customer a choice.
the problem in these establishments no one wants to stand up and to be counted, he or she would be branded "as smart" which is a "no no" in a provincial environment, like changing the long tradition of Wiener Schnitzel, Apfelstrudel or Salzburger Nockerln.

John
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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 14 October 2011 17:37:39(UTC)
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The model has a grey roof because the prototype had a grey roof (but I forgot the reason why).

The model should have 5 powered axles (2 tender axles, 3 loco axles).
Some Roco steamers only have powered tender axles, IMHO this makes a big difference.
I think it's a clever design if both tender and loco axles are driven.
Regards
Tom
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Offline ak_marklineer  
#6 Posted : 29 October 2011 11:49:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
The one thing that puts me off Roco steam locos is that many of them have the motor in the tender. Does your Br01 have it's motor in the tender, Steve?


Dave the motor appears to be in the loco body, I could certainly see a problem with the motor being in the tender, it would put extra stress on the loco body, surely it would contribute to more derailments?
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Offline river6109  
#7 Posted : 29 October 2011 12:22:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ak_marklineer Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
The one thing that puts me off Roco steam locos is that many of them have the motor in the tender. Does your Br01 have it's motor in the tender, Steve?


Dave the motor appears to be in the loco body, I could certainly see a problem with the motor being in the tender, it would put extra stress on the loco body, surely it would contribute to more derailments?


The sparepart lists shows the motor in tender wth 2 outside axles powered
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Offline Osterthun  
#8 Posted : 09 January 2013 20:07:45(UTC)
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For larger pictures of Roco's 01 196, please have a look here and here.

Regards
Frits Osterthun

PS: Many Roco steamers have not only the motor in the tender, but a connection-axle between tender and locomotive (right trhough the cabin) wich gears the 3rd drive axle.
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