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Offline Brakepad  
#1 Posted : 06 October 2011 20:15:53(UTC)
Brakepad

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I've just read this on the news:

http://www.diariovasco.c...-nueva-201110061138.html

CAF is a well known spanish manufacturer, and it seems they will deliver some trains for New Zealand.

UserPostedImage

This is good news for the railway sector in Spain. It's also good news for the company I work for, because it's very likely that some subsystems are supplied by us as well...let's see what happens. The train looks good. (The Blue/White colours are the Auckland regional colours - their rugby teams wear blue/white stripped shirts. /BDNZ)

Edited by moderator 07 October 2011 04:46:54(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
Offline old toot  
#2 Posted : 06 October 2011 20:57:29(UTC)
old toot

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Hi Brakepad
great looking eh and yes finally auckland is realising that a city
of their size needs a trains that can shift a lot of people and
a rail system, they have been car nuts for years,while our wellington
has had electric trains for 50 years, so they have seen laterly how trains
can shift people apart from the first night of the world cup which to me
it seemed like everyone in auckland decided that night to travel suddenly
by train instead of 50% by train then the rest by bus and car and foot
but they will learn, and then some idoits just kept pushing the emergency
buttons and locking the brakes, so you can give some people new trains
but then you have to teach them how to use them
great to hear you guys got the job, the new wgtn ones have been a real problem
and then came from korea.
regards
bryan old toot
were we pickit, packit and postit
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#3 Posted : 06 October 2011 22:03:38(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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That's great news. I hear Auckland was jealous over the deal Wellington got for its Matangi trains. Good to see Auckland have done their own deal.

The Korean built Matangi trains are coming online now, there were a few teething problems, but I'm seeing more of them on the rails now. Haven't had a ride in one yet, though!

Maybe Marklin might build a model of the new CAF trains........(Electrotren might!)


UserPostedImage

Picture of a Matangi.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZR_FP_class

Bombardier and CAF were shortlisted as potential suppliers to supply the Matangi trains, along with Rotem/Mitsui, with Rotem/Mitsui winning the contract.

Edited by user 07 October 2011 04:44:14(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline ak_marklineer  
#4 Posted : 07 October 2011 13:38:39(UTC)
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Thanks for that Brakepad, that's the first glimpse of of the new Auckland Locomotives I have seen, I have been observing the slow progress they are making erecting Catenary Masts unfortunately here at the end of the Western line (I'm just around the corner from Lord Macca) we won't be getting electrification so I guess they'll have to run a few shuttle trains (Diesel)I guess that'll give me something to listen at night . . . sigh, now if it was Steam then we'd be talkin . . . why didn't the Auckland Council go for those? No sense of the Rail sensation at all! Always a pleasure when Mainline Steam's JA1275 steams on through the Township. http://www.mainlinesteam.co.nz/Ja1275.html
Steve
German DRG ERA II
MSIG of The Auckland Marklin Club Inc
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Offline kariosls37  
#5 Posted : 07 October 2011 22:21:08(UTC)
kariosls37

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The problem with steam is: You can't run them into Britomart(our 5 track underground terminal station where every train goes toLOL ). Not because the fan's can't take it, but because the sprinkler system would be set off every time a steam loco enters.

Well done on the Council has managed to persuade the Government to allow the trains to be bought, instead of pouring the money into Wellington's network, who have had electrics from the forties onwards(though they are still running the origional EMU's)

Cheers,
Rick
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 07 October 2011 23:02:29(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Cmon Rick, the Wellington network desperately needed some upgrade work done and money spent on it. There's no reason why Auckland should get all the funding, New Zealand doesn't stop at the Bombay hills.
Offline ak_marklineer  
#7 Posted : 08 October 2011 06:59:24(UTC)
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Bigdaddynz, I am reliably informed that there are some cities south of them thar hills . . . weather or not there is life south of the hills though is questionable . . . . *chuckle chuckle*
Steve
German DRG ERA II
MSIG of The Auckland Marklin Club Inc
www.marklin.org.nz
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Offline kariosls37  
#8 Posted : 08 October 2011 11:50:01(UTC)
kariosls37

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Quote:
Cmon Rick, the Wellington network desperately needed some upgrade work done and money spent on it. There's no reason why Auckland should get all the funding, New Zealand doesn't stop at the Bombay hills.

I did excaggerate a bit, but I still get the idea that Auckland is always having to play catch-up with Wellington in these things.
It probably is a compensation for you guys being stuck with the politiciansFlapper
Offline Macfire  
#9 Posted : 15 October 2011 14:51:52(UTC)
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Thanks for that Brakepad.
Nice looking units. As Steve says we at Waitakere Township (the current terminus for the Western Line) are destined not to have these arrive at our station because of the tunnel between us and Auckland.
Built in the late 19th Century to the original loading gauge it has been improved so that Dx class locos and the Silver Fern railcars can fit (just) simply by lowering ther tunnel floor but there is not enough height for cantenary.
They will stop at Swanson instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Auckland_Line

(Memo - must take a photo of the tunnel to show just how narrow it is)

I hope that they have a happier introduction to operations than the Korean Matangi EMU's and the Chinese DL Diesels have had.

But then there was "El Lemon"........

http://www.nzmaritime.co.nz/aratere.htm

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/interactive/rough-seas
Wink

Lord Macca
New Zealand branch of Clan Donald.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#10 Posted : 15 October 2011 23:37:31(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Originally Posted by: ak_marklineer Go to Quoted Post
Bigdaddynz, I am reliably informed that there are some cities south of them thar hills . . . weather or not there is life south of the hills though is questionable . . . . *chuckle chuckle*



Spoken like a true Jaffa! Flapper



Originally Posted by: Macfire Go to Quoted Post
They will stop at Swanson instead.



You mean, I can't take the train next time I come to visit you!
Offline kariosls37  
#11 Posted : 16 October 2011 07:40:56(UTC)
kariosls37

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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Macfire Go to Quoted Post
They will stop at Swanson instead.



You mean, I can't take the train next time I come to visit you!


You can, but you will have to take a dizeasel.

The same applies for Pukekohe, where the cost of installation outweighs the revenue from commuters. But then again, Pukekohe is only an hour's drive from Hamilton, where the electrified portion of the NIMT starts....

But having an all electric NIMT is considered about the same level of sillyness by the powers that be as ordering new electric(dual voltage?) locomotives.... After all, Diesel's can do anything!
Offline old toot  
#12 Posted : 16 October 2011 08:32:14(UTC)
old toot

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Hi all
well its interesting about the elctrification I always could not
understand when they ran the overhead to Hamilton they were actually
under budget why they never just carried on to pukekohe at least
just didn't make sense,while they had the team of contractors togther
and also like when the drilled the tunnel to the waiarapa
years ago the italian drillers offered the govt of the day to drill a
parallel tunnel for cars and they turned them down as they thought it would never be needed !!!Blink

so we are looking at the same issue down here with the effect of the earthquake they are talking
rail into centre of town and considering we have rail from Rangiora to the edge of hagley and also from
Lyttleton, and the Hornby line south with a branch nearly at Rolleston, a loop across the bottom of
Hagley and up through the trees to the hospital and then straight down tuam street and then high street linking
back up about the back of AMI stadium.
We could like wgtn have easy access for sports events and the trains
could run even from as far as Ashburton/timaru with CAF like units and like Germany after the war we could
put in the train/lightrail system and rebuild the town back around it and create a link from the airport as well
to bring tourists right into town,and the trams continue to provide the inner city movement.
The wgtn trains have been great over the years we lived just across the road from Ngaio station and our record
was 45 secs from back door to train but they offered trains every 12 mins at peak and every 30 off peak and
every morning they would bring 40000 people into wgtn between 8.00 and 8.30, but after 50 years they needed upgrading
and all the electrics and signals one guy working on it told me was just hanging by a thread,so they have had to replace
all that as well which has caused some delays, as everything they touched he said fell apart it was so run down.
so its great to see wgtn and auckland realising the rail is the real people mover for the future.
regards
old toot go the all blacks
were we pickit, packit and postit
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#13 Posted : 16 October 2011 08:52:28(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Bryan, even with all the upgrades and stuff to the Wellington metro network, they still can't run the Matangi trains in anything more than 6 car units, as the power draw is too much with anything larger.
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