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Offline steventrain  
#1851 Posted : 09 September 2013 21:15:17(UTC)
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...the following flags have given a GREAT honour to Marklinistanbul and ME so far.....Love Love Love




Any Scotland member been there?
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline utkan  
#1852 Posted : 09 September 2013 22:28:15(UTC)
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A very bright young friend you've got there, Mehmet. Well done!

Peter ThumpUp Smile


Hi Peter,

I have no doubt that in less than two years he is going to make a big train fan.....ThumpUp ThumpUp

Cheers,

mehmet
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Offline utkan  
#1853 Posted : 09 September 2013 22:30:42(UTC)
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...the following flags have given a GREAT honour to Marklinistanbul and ME so far.....Love Love Love




Any Scotland member been there?


So far no, Stephen.....Blushing But I believe Ian soon will be here as soon as he gets the big lottery.....Laugh

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Offline Artologic  
#1854 Posted : 10 September 2013 10:04:23(UTC)
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Hi Kristof,

As you said, a lay out can be happy and full of life as long as it receives visitors.....Laugh LOL otherwise it is nothing but a ghost field.....Crying

Who knows maybe you and your girlfrined might give the joy to the little people of marklinistanbul.....Wink

Cheers,

mehmet

ps: due to the preprations to the Göppingen visit I hardly find time for marklinistanbul....but promise to compensate when I am back....Blushing


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Mehmet,

I see you are spending a lot of time being visited by people, that s awesome and you know what they say, if people return then it must be a good place to go Cool Cool .

If we would ever be in the neighbourhood, will we will surely do our best to get to marklinistanbul! That should be really fun and it would add another flag to your list.

Kristof & Alexandra

Ps; If you could send me the flags, I could make an attempt to make them go under your name!

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Offline utkan  
#1855 Posted : 11 September 2013 08:59:22(UTC)
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Quote:

Hi Kristof,

As you said, a lay out can be happy and full of life as long as it receives visitors.....Laugh LOL otherwise it is nothing but a ghost field.....Crying

Who knows maybe you and your girlfrined might give the joy to the little people of marklinistanbul.....Wink

Cheers,

mehmet

ps: due to the preprations to the Göppingen visit I hardly find time for marklinistanbul....but promise to compensate when I am back....Blushing


Fieuw finally I m able to get back on the forum,

Mehmet,

I see you are spending a lot of time being visited by people, that s awesome and you know what they say, if people return then it must be a good place to go Cool Cool .

If we would ever be in the neighbourhood, will we will surely do our best to get to marklinistanbul! That should be really fun and it would add another flag to your list.

Kristof & Alexandra

Ps; If you could send me the flags, I could make an attempt to make them go under your name!



Hi Kristof,

Alexandra and you will give me a great honour.....Love

About the flags..... I got them from www.flags.net You know the countries....BigGrin

By the way a member from forum has also sent me a link but that did not work....or due to my lack of computer culture I could not do it....Crying Blushing

But thanks anyway for everything, which I really appreciate....ThumpUp ThumpUp

Cheers,

mehmet

ps: since I am on my to Göppingen If I don`t answer you, please forgive me.....I will be back on Monday...Hope....RollEyes

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Offline petestra  
#1856 Posted : 11 September 2013 12:14:51(UTC)
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Have a great trip, Mehmet. Hope you take lots of photos for us all. Cheers,Peter ThumpUp Smile
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#1857 Posted : 11 September 2013 15:10:02(UTC)
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Have a great trip, Mehmet. Hope you take lots of photos for us all. Cheers,Peter ThumpUp Smile


Hi Peter,

Thanks for your good wishes. And also I wish you were there tooLOL
About the photos promise I will do my best Wink

Cheers,
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Offline utkan  
#1858 Posted : 11 September 2013 15:13:25(UTC)
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My dream has become TRUE LOL LOL Love
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#1859 Posted : 11 September 2013 18:23:29(UTC)
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Have a great trip, Mehmet. Hope you take lots of photos for us all. Cheers,Peter ThumpUp Smile


Hi Peter,

Thanks for your good wishes. And also I wish you were there tooLOL
About the photos promise I will do my best Wink

Cheers,
mehmet


Thanks,Mehmet. Someday in future I'll be there. You can bet on it! Cheers,Peter Cool
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Offline utkan  
#1860 Posted : 11 September 2013 18:35:40(UTC)
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Have a great trip, Mehmet. Hope you take lots of photos for us all. Cheers,Peter ThumpUp Smile


Hi Peter,

Thanks for your good wishes. And also I wish you were there tooLOL
About the photos promise I will do my best Wink

Cheers,
mehmet


Thanks,Mehmet. Someday in future I'll be there. You can bet on it! Cheers,Peter Cool


I will be longing for that day, then, Peter....BigGrin

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#1861 Posted : 17 September 2013 15:00:51(UTC)
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A SONDERMODELLE KÜHLWAGEN BY MICHA K.Love Love

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Offline waorb  
#1862 Posted : 17 September 2013 15:15:12(UTC)
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A SONDERMODELLE KÜHLWAGEN BY MICHA K.Love Love

For sure this gift worth the travel! BigGrin

And you can say to Micha that a lot of marklinists loved the car.

Regards,

Walter

(at least one in south america!) Love Love
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Offline utkan  
#1863 Posted : 17 September 2013 18:44:52(UTC)
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A SONDERMODELLE KÜHLWAGEN BY MICHA K.Love Love

For sure this gift worth the travel! BigGrin

And you can say to Micha that a lot of marklinists loved the car.

Regards,

Walter

(at least one in south america!) Love Love


You are so right,Walter.....Smile

I think Micha,who is a forum member, can see all the admiration himself.....ThumpUp ThumpUp

Greetings to South America....Smile
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Offline river6109  
#1864 Posted : 19 September 2013 03:10:18(UTC)
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Mehmet,

after all these years following your story and layout and noticing your logo: the world is analog, I thought here is a true believer in analog and I've been watching some of your latest videos and found the layout is digital. (computer screen).
What a surprise = for me

John
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Offline utkan  
#1865 Posted : 19 September 2013 07:01:57(UTC)
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Mehmet,

after all these years following your story and layout and noticing your logo: the world is analog, I thought here is a true believer in analog and I've been watching some of your latest videos and found the layout is digital. (computer screen).
What a surprise = for me

John


Hi John,

As you said ' I am a true believer in analog!'.....BigGrin On the surface everything is truely analog....but when they go under the table they change.....Wink Or let's put in this way: I take advantage of digital world.....RollEyes

About my logo .....I say 'The world' not 'The train'.... Meanwhile I am not interested in digital stuff at all just because of two reasons: They are expensive and I do not believe they are as stong as analog ones either they will not last long as as long as analog ones....RollEyes Surely this is my humble thought....Sad



sorry for the subtitle, which is in my native language...Blushing

....as the song goes, John...BigGrin

By the way I am closely following the magic layout of yours....and I must admit it looks / is WONDERFUL....Love

Cheers,

mehmet
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#1866 Posted : 19 September 2013 14:22:08(UTC)
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Very pretty song and words, Mehmet. Peter ThumpUp Smile
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Offline utkan  
#1867 Posted : 19 September 2013 14:33:23(UTC)
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Very pretty song and words, Mehmet. Peter ThumpUp Smile


A song I have loved all my life, Peter....Wub
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#1868 Posted : 22 September 2013 19:08:40(UTC)
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Faller 120198 Covered footbridge....RollEyes

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#1869 Posted : 22 September 2013 19:14:05(UTC)
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...Nora is doing her best to catch her train....

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...some climbing up....BigGrin
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#1870 Posted : 22 September 2013 19:16:02(UTC)
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...some climbing down......BigGrin

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....Herpa girl, Irma is still at work.....RollEyes
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#1871 Posted : 22 September 2013 19:18:59(UTC)
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...a very dirty roof....Blushing Blushing

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...I have always felt for these figures, who are not able to see the sunshine in Marklinistanbul.....Sad Sad

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#1872 Posted : 22 September 2013 22:08:35(UTC)
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Ah Mehmet, don't feel sorry for them. They have a great view of the trains from their

wonderful overhead view! Peter ThumpUp Smile
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Offline utkan  
#1873 Posted : 23 September 2013 08:30:37(UTC)
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Ah Mehmet, don't feel sorry for them. They have a great view of the trains from their

wonderful overhead view! Peter ThumpUp Smile


To tell the truth I had never thought in that way, Peter.....BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin
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#1874 Posted : 24 September 2013 12:27:16(UTC)
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#1875 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:13:03(UTC)
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Hauptbahnhof BonnRollEyes

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#1876 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:16:09(UTC)
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#1877 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:21:00(UTC)
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#1878 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:23:07(UTC)
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#1879 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:26:21(UTC)
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#1880 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:38:31(UTC)
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....from east.....Smile

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...from west....Smile

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#1881 Posted : 24 September 2013 16:57:02(UTC)
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...from west....Smile

Werdohler Stellwerk in evidence... ThumpUp

Did the lamp fixed? Cool

You have some good places at Bonn station to play around coupling and uncoupling wagons!
Nice helicopter photo-service! Smile

Regards,

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#1882 Posted : 24 September 2013 17:06:51(UTC)
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...from west....Smile

Werdohler Stellwerk in evidence... ThumpUp

Did the lamp fixed? Cool

You have some good places at Bonn station to play around coupling and uncoupling wagons!
Nice helicopter photo-service! Smile

Regards,

Walter


Hi Walter.

The lamp has been fixed....BigGrin

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Thanks for the close interest....ThumpUp ThumpUp

When we have finished the detailed tour along the platfforms, I will have a quiz...Wink

You see the covered footbridge does not have a name yet....RollEyes

Greetings from Werdohler Stellwerk....BigGrin

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#1883 Posted : 26 September 2013 15:00:58(UTC)
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....Karsten and ....

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...his colleague Manfred are very busy as usual....RollEyes

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...Mrs O'Hara is on her way to Cologne Airport and then to Ireland....BigGrin

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Marco is a bit worried about time...RollEyes
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#1884 Posted : 26 September 2013 15:10:51(UTC)
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Not a pleasent morning for Marlis since she is seeing the dentist....RollEyes

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She did not have a nice night...Sad

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....an important morning for Maximilliane...she has an interview this morning in Cologne....OhMyGod

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...good luck, Maximilliane...Smile
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#1885 Posted : 27 September 2013 12:03:04(UTC)
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Mrs. Braunschmid is on her way to her daughter,who is going to deliver a baby....OhMyGod

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....Melitta will be on the same train, but of course for another reason....she is going to see her Grandmother, who lives in Darmstadt....Smile

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#1886 Posted : 27 September 2013 12:15:03(UTC)
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Renate feels a bit down this morning....Sad

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...Mr. Avernig is on her way to US for a long business trip....ThumpUp

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Mr. Rein has resigned from his company.....and he feels a bit depressed....Sad
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#1887 Posted : 27 September 2013 13:27:35(UTC)
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Georg and Werner are waiting for their commuter train....RollEyes

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Mr.Grabner has just seen his neighbour on opposite platform....Smile
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#1888 Posted : 27 September 2013 13:31:44(UTC)
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Mr.Hütter will be attending an important meeting in Mannheim this morning....RollEyes
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#1889 Posted : 27 September 2013 19:04:18(UTC)
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Stephanie is on her way to Paris to spend the weekend.....BigGrin

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.....it another usual day for Oliver, the newsagent.....RollEyes


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Kerstin is here to see her boyfriend off....Sad RollEyes

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#1890 Posted : 27 September 2013 19:07:18(UTC)
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...the Dean of Cologne University, Mr Avernig, is taking a train since his car is in the garage.....Sad RollEyes

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...he does not seem to be used to trains a lot...RollEyes
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#1891 Posted : 27 September 2013 19:16:01(UTC)
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Paul Berger, a young assistant, is going to start to work at the University Of Cologne....and he does not know he is standing next to his new boss....LOL LOL

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#1892 Posted : 28 September 2013 14:49:52(UTC)
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...Veronika is going to meet some friends in Cologne....Smile

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...a detail from the platforms.....RollEyes
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#1893 Posted : 28 September 2013 14:52:00(UTC)
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...Renate and Henrik have just met today....RollEyesWink
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#1894 Posted : 29 September 2013 05:39:18(UTC)
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Renate and Henrik have just met today, with a blue suit like that I think it will be the last timeBigGrin
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#1895 Posted : 29 September 2013 14:40:01(UTC)
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Renate and Henrik have just met today, with a blue suit like that I think it will be the last timeBigGrin


I whispered your words to Renate and she found them very silly.....RollEyes
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#1896 Posted : 29 September 2013 15:48:09(UTC)
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Sorry for being OT, but relating to the mobile browsing issue, one thing I've found when browsing a thread with lots of photos, is that because it does take a while to load the complete page you might have browsed to the middle of the thread and started reading. Seconds later, the rest of the thread loads and then the browser takes you to the bottom of the thread, and you lose your place where you were reading.
I guess this is a YAF feature: When you click "Go to first unread" the forum jumps to the thread, waits until all images have been loaded, and then jumps to the first unread post. With a slow connection or with many pictures (especially on Imageshack) this can take a while.
Other software like phpBB will jump to the first unread post immediately, before images were loaded - this is not better, as images continue to load and with every picture the page layout will be updated and you also lose the place where you were reading (and you might lose it more than once).
I don't think it's a mobile browsing issue - but the speed of the connection plays a role here, and with mobile browsing the connection is often slower.

When using the PC, I open every interesting thread in a new tab. I click that tab when the "circle of death" is gone, all images have been loaded and the jump to the first unread post was completed.

The number of images per post has little impact on this effect. With only one picture per post the total number of pictures per page will be lower and load time will also be lower. With 10 pictures per post, load time will be 10 times as long (and Mehmet's post counter will slow down by factor 10 Wink ).

Mehmet's picture threads are fantastic - but expect that loading images will take a few seconds while watching and reading will take a few minutes. ThumpUp
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#1897 Posted : 29 September 2013 16:52:06(UTC)
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Mehmet what a beautiful layout and presentation! Too bad Fallers Lila Eule has been discontinued most likely do with women's issues with it.
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#1898 Posted : 29 September 2013 23:28:04(UTC)
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Hi Tom,

Sometimes I read your explanations with my mouth wide open with amazement......BigGrin BigGrin

I will do my best to keep everyone`s attention and interest on marklinistanbul....BigGrin surely by causing less cyberic problems....Blushing

Cheers,

mehmet
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#1899 Posted : 29 September 2013 23:31:05(UTC)
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Mehmet what a beautiful layout and presentation! Too bad Fallers Lila Eule has been discontinued most likely do with women's issues with it.


Glad you are enjoying the thread, Fred....BigGrin

Cheers,

mehmet
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#1900 Posted : 30 September 2013 13:11:45(UTC)
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Pierre is going to spend some time at his brother's , Jacques. in Paris ....BigGrin

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Marcia is on her way to work as usual....RollEyes
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