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Offline ozzman  
#1 Posted : 17 September 2011 07:31:23(UTC)
ozzman

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Were E44s/Br144s ever used in push-pull service?
Gary
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 17 September 2011 08:00:37(UTC)
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Hi Gary,

I quote from a German Rail forum regards push-pull services.
Indirect control is used with steam engines (23, 38.10, 65, 66 and 78 classes) and early diesels (V36) pushing Donnerbuechsen. (The V36 and red train has been released this year in Marklin HO).

Direct control is used with later diesels (V80, V100, V200.0, V160 and its various subclasses) and electrics (E 44G (G = geschobener Zug), E 40 (some) E 41, 111)

However, the V200.1, E10, many E40, E50, and most old electric did not have this equipment).

I would say you would be safe to use an E44.

regards
Kimball
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Offline ozzman  
#3 Posted : 17 September 2011 08:11:00(UTC)
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Thanks Kimball. I was interested to see that Br 38.10s were also used for push-pull service. I have a standard 38, so I could use that too - as it's Z scale you'd almost need an electron microscope to see whether or not it was a 38.10!
Gary
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Offline Frankenbahner  
#4 Posted : 21 September 2011 10:26:51(UTC)
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The E44 were used in push and pull service. Several years ago, there was an article in a German rail magazine about push and pull services, showing an E 44 with a push and pull train consisting of Prussian compartment coaches, which ran in the 1950ies in the Munich region. Unluckily, they didn't show a photo of the control car, but it must have been a converted steel caboose, a DRG type built during wartime. Those E44 which were fitted for this service, had a "G" behind their running number.

Regards,
Florian
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Offline ozzman  
#5 Posted : 21 September 2011 12:42:47(UTC)
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Thanks Florian.
Gary
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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 21 September 2011 15:49:38(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: ozzman Go to Quoted Post
I have a standard 38, so I could use that too - as it's Z scale you'd almost need an electron microscope to see whether or not it was a 38.10!
AFAIK all locos that M* call "BR 38" are not BR 38, but in fact are BR 38.10-40.
And the differences between a push/pull 38.10 and a "standard" 38.10 are not visible in Z scale.
Regards
Tom
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