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Offline mike c  
#1 Posted : 08 August 2011 05:35:19(UTC)
mike c

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Eurolokshop (Trans Europe Enterprises) has decided to stop carrying the Hag product line. They have posted the following message on the page normally dedicated to Hag trains:

"Hag Models from Switzerland have always been difficult to import and stock due to their limited availability. Over the last two years, the Swiss franc has progressively increased in value over the US dollar and is now 40% higher. This makes our costs prohibitively high and prevents us from competitively pricing Hag models. For these reasons, we will no longer be able to carry Hag Models. All existing leftover stock listed... is on sale. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. Eurolokshop remains committed to bringing you the finest European models at the best prices."

Helmut's Hobbies lists Hag as one of the lines that they carry, but I could not find a single item that was listed as "in stock". Euro Model Trains has a few items "in stock". The result is that modellers who want to buy Hag will have to special order at today's very high prices or order their goods from overseas.

If anybody is interested, TEE USA has a nice price on their last SBB Re 450 (AC) and DC S-Bahn Set and Euro Model Trains has a good price on the Ae 6/6 "Aargau" with the "Falschfahrlicht" (red light underneath the top lamp).

Any new orders of Hag items will likely cost much more than the prices listed for the remaining items today.Sad

Regards

Mike C
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#2 Posted : 08 August 2011 06:53:44(UTC)
5HorizonsRR

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Sad news, but I don't blame eurolokshop one bit. That exchange rate is crazy vs the dollar.

I can imagine how tough it is to be a dealer as well. i've often called multiple shops wanting to buy something and ever single one would sound plain depressed when they said they doubt they could even get it. I defintely learned to take the imported brass approach with HAG- preorder and be prepared to wait a long time for delivery...
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Offline David Dewar  
#3 Posted : 08 August 2011 11:09:03(UTC)
David Dewar

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I no longer buy HAG due to the price and lack of dealers stocking the product. Good models (including the coaches which were made some years ago) but the cost makes them poor value for cash. I expect the firm sell mainly in Switzerland and to keen Swiss collectors (Mike our resident Swiss expert)
Marklin however are doing some good Swiss locos which represent much better value. My old HAGs still run very well.

dave
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline mmervine  
#4 Posted : 08 August 2011 14:43:52(UTC)
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When I was in Zurich last year, the exchange rate was about 1-1 with the USD. I puchased a Rivarossi BLS Re4/4I from Zuri-tech (a very nice lok BTW) at a competative price. With the exchange rate today at about 1.3x, I can't even imagine buying anything in Switzerland right now.
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Offline jcrtrains  
#5 Posted : 08 August 2011 23:42:05(UTC)
jcrtrains

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All thoughts of actually purchasing Hag from a retailer have gone for me. It has been an astonishing rise in the Franc and with days like today, I suspect it will be a while until it returns.

I am left to browse ebay and ricardo. I was fortunate to find an estate sale earlier in the year but I suspect it will be many years until I see some of the current or recent items from Hag that I would like at a reasonable price on an auction site.

Offline plavnostruev  
#6 Posted : 11 August 2011 17:00:06(UTC)
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From news digest:

PARIS— Switzerland’s central bank signaled Thursday it was prepared to consider a once-unthinkable step: pegging the nation’s "massively overvalued" currency to the euro, at least temporarily.

Such a move would be a response to the global financial turmoil that has lifted the value of the Swiss franc, which investors consider a safe haven, to levels that are menacing Switzerland’s economy.


Michael
Offline ricky  
#7 Posted : 11 August 2011 18:47:43(UTC)
ricky


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Location: California
Hi Mike,

very good news indeed!

With the bad news of Eurolokshop dropping Hag, I will have to fly to Switzerland in my Citation X, but that will be very annoying, because from California I will have to make a fuel stop on the East Coast!! What a drag!! Mad Mad
Of course I can still fly in my 737 BBJ, but it is so slooow! Bored Bored Bored

Cheers,
Ricky Smile
Offline mike c  
#8 Posted : 11 August 2011 21:51:43(UTC)
mike c

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Location: Montreal, QC
The situation in Switzerland is good and bad. Swiss citizens find that their money is going much farther outside of the country, be it in the United States or elsewhere in Europe. Buying Swiss products has become much more expensive for people outside the country, which can hurt business, especially small businesses like Hag.
In rising from 90 Cents to $1.40, the Swiss Franc has seen an amazing surge. Part of this is not due to the Franc increasing, but to the drop in the Euro against the more stable Swiss currency. This has resulted in people speculating on the Swiss Franc, which has driven it even higher. The actual value of the Swiss Franc today should be closer to 0.80 EUR.
Canada faced a similar situation vis-a-vis the US Dollar. The dollar had gone from 65 Cents to $1.05. The Canadian Dollar probably should be worth about $1.20-1.25 today, but the Canadian Government has stepped in discretely on a few occasions to keep the CAD$ close to the US$, as the USA is our main trade partner, and having a higher value would hurt Canadian Exports. This decision has hurt Canadian Importers, as US goods are cheaper, but goods imported from Europe and especially Switzerland have become way too expensive.
The drop in the Euro has meant that goods from the EU are still comparable to prices before the crash. The sad part about it is that the monetary policies of the Canadian Government have deprived Canadians of being able to benefit from what would be the best exchange rates in years.

Regards

Mike C
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