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Offline linepro  
#51 Posted : 10 February 2011 19:22:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: linepro Go to Quoted Post
Looking at the changeLog.xml in the latest update:

GFP - Changelog
V1.36
Eine einstellbare Leistungsabgabe der Treiberbrücke zur Anpassung an den verwendeten Trafo. Diese ist aber noch nicht aktiv, da das Gegenstück in der GUI noch fehlt
"Adjustable power output of the bridge driver to adapt to the used transformer. But this is not yet active, as the GUI portion is missing"

So the sole question is adjustable up (how far) or down only?

Certainly looks hopeful for a 60214 -> 60215 software upgrade.



Also found over on Stummis:

Latest 60214s and all 60215s have isolated ground (brown cable), so that might have a bearing [whether you have adjustable output]. 60214s with the isolated ground have a special symbol next to the CE mark on the identity label on the back. May also explain why they decided to call it 60215 so that they could identify the hardware change.
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Offline laalves  
#52 Posted : 10 February 2011 19:26:10(UTC)
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@linepro: What does the special symbol look like?
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#53 Posted : 10 February 2011 20:45:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: laalves Go to Quoted Post
Raising the available current to 5 Amp may also be excellent to solder wheels and sliders to the rail and pukos, thus creating permanent display rolling stock in the layout.... ;)

.....how or why ?



This is the same point that I made in post #11 in this thread.

How you ask? When a short occurs, e.g. a loco or coach derails creating a track short, the momentary high(er) current flowing through the wheels can melt the metal, and the metal in the rails, therefore instantly fusing them together. The higher the current, the greater the risk, especially with smaller sized H0 gauge wheels (as opposed to 1 gauge wheels).
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Offline linepro  
#54 Posted : 11 February 2011 00:27:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: laalves Go to Quoted Post
@linepro: What does the special symbol look like?


Its the EU symbol for "Sicherheitstransformator - kurzschlussfest.
Ausgangsspannung bis höchstens 50 Volt" - "Safety transformer - short circuit proof. Output voltage up to a maximum of 50 volts"; two rings in a sheild.

See Electronic symbols and match the German text (10th down in the table).

My 60214 doesn't have it [HW Ver 3.6].

The Stummis thread is CS2: Massetrennung ja/nein bei 60214 und 60215 (also has a picture of a qualifying label).
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Offline frankie  
#55 Posted : 11 February 2011 11:22:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: laalves Go to Quoted Post
Raising the available current to 5 Amp may also be excellent to solder wheels and sliders to the rail and pukos, thus creating permanent display rolling stock in the layout.... ;)

.....how or why ?



This is the same point that I made in post #11 in this thread.

How you ask? When a short occurs, e.g. a loco or coach derails creating a track short, the momentary high(er) current flowing through the wheels can melt the metal, and the metal in the rails, therefore instantly fusing them together. The higher the current, the greater the risk, especially with smaller sized H0 gauge wheels (as opposed to 1 gauge wheels).

ESU boosters also have a clear warning stating that the higher power one is for gauge 1 only, because of that.
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Offline jeehring  
#56 Posted : 11 February 2011 19:33:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: frankie Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: laalves Go to Quoted Post
Raising the available current to 5 Amp may also be excellent to solder wheels and sliders to the rail and pukos, thus creating permanent display rolling stock in the layout.... ;)

.....how or why ?



This is the same point that I made in post #11 in this thread.

).

ESU boosters also have a clear warning stating that the higher power one is for gauge 1 only, because of that.


Yes, but this "higher power booster for garden gauge " from ESU is delivering 8 Amp ....
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Offline darryl123  
#57 Posted : 10 December 2011 08:06:40(UTC)
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hi
i have found in one of the menus where there is a nenu that says trafo and gives 3 choices of transformers to chose from. i think this is where you will be able to select where the 3 and 5 amp outputs will be selected as there is a choice for 60052 60061 and 60101. can this be the way to switch the output? i have the 60213 cs2 with the latest software update.
the screen is information where the menu is.
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Offline H0  
#58 Posted : 10 December 2011 08:42:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: darryl123 Go to Quoted Post
can this be the way to switch the output?
I think that's the place. The 60213 should be limited to 3 A, no matter which power supply you select.
For the short circuit detection it probably makes a difference whether you select a transformer (60052) or a switching-mode power supply (60061).
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#59 Posted : 10 December 2011 11:10:21(UTC)
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However, Marklin have since released an engineering bulletin advising that the 5 amp option is for 1 gauge trains only and should not be used for H0 layouts.
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