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Offline Ranjit  
#1 Posted : 12 October 2004 19:12:43(UTC)
Ranjit


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Location: Chennai, Tamil Nadu, INDIA
Hi All,

I just received my birthday loco and I am thrilled. It is a real beauty! I tested the loco on my very simple analog layout, and I noticed the following:

1. The train headlights in the front and at the back of the tender are very dim, especially the front lights. Is it because the loco is digital and is running on an analog layout? Does it need more power?
2. There are some white marks on the boiler (at the top and on both the sides). What are these marks? Are these marks intentional and are they there to replicate the conditions of a real locomotive?
3. At the rear end of the tender (both sides), there are also some white marks like something has dripped down. Why is this so? Also, on one of the sides, there seems to be a small area where the paint has peeled off. Again, is this intentional to show the weathering effects or is it a manufacturing defect?

Apart from the above, the loco runs well and looks really great.

It would be really nice if any of you could let me know if the loco was also received in this condition and experienced similar problems mentioned above.

Thank you.

best regards,
Ranjit
Modelling in HO Scale - Era III & IV. K+M Track, Analogue + Digital
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Offline Katzenwald  
#2 Posted : 12 October 2004 21:07:07(UTC)
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Hi Ranjit,
I have the 37844 (non-weathered BR50 with Wagner smoke deflectors) and yes, the headlights are very dim in analog operation. In digital, full voltage is available to the lamps all the time, and the decoder supplies reduced voltage to the motor when the decoder is "told" to move the loco at low or moderate speed. In analog, realistic speed is achieved simply by putting a low voltage into the track, so the lights are dimmer. The bulbs are different too (22V nominal vs. 16V in analog locos.)

You can make the lights brighter by a simple, easily reversible trick: just put some reflective material (aluminum foil or white paper) lining the interior of the boiler and tender housing near the lamps. use paper if you are concerned about short circuits, and keep the smokestack open if you are going to use a smoke unit. You can tape the material in place. opening the tender is tricky (there are some tabs you GENTLY pop loose with a screwdriver) but while you're in there, you can adjust the acceleration and top speed controls too.

I'm sure the "flaws" in your loco's finish are intentional weathering details. Personally I never saw German engines looking so decrepit in service (last time I was there and saw steam still in use was 1973) but perhaps at the very end they let them deteriorate. The white stuff is probably meant to represent mineral salts from the boiler water.
Offline Lars Westerlind  
#3 Posted : 12 October 2004 22:54:03(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Ranjit
<br />Hi All,

I just received my birthday loco and I am thrilled. It is a real beauty! I tested the loco on my very simple analog layout, and I ...

Thank you.


best regards,
Ranjit


Ranjit,
just curious. Is it a 50 1953, or a 50 1954? I have not seen any advertisment for a 50 1954 yet... And I'm dreaming about a 50 1957 myself... Smile
Offline HueyCE  
#4 Posted : 13 October 2004 00:08:56(UTC)
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Ranjit- My wife's has the same weathering effects as yours.
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Offline Ranjit  
#5 Posted : 13 October 2004 07:20:24(UTC)
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Hi Lars,

The loco is a 50 1954.

warm regards,
Ranjit
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Offline Ranjit  
#6 Posted : 14 October 2004 05:16:41(UTC)
Ranjit


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Hi Katzenwald, Ira and Lars,

Thanks a lot guys for your inputs. I guess the marks are intentional and there is nothing to worry about then? Btw, how does one detach the tender from the loco? It seems to be hard wired! Ira, do you even have paint peeling off on yours?

Cheers,
Ranjit
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Offline Armando  
#7 Posted : 14 October 2004 06:34:27(UTC)
Armando

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Hi everyone,

The locomotive is really spectacular. Mine has exactly the same white weathered spots. I did notice a problem when I received it. The road number plate on the boiler (front end) had come off. Very strange thing.
Greetings from Montreal,
Armando
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Offline Ranjit  
#8 Posted : 14 October 2004 07:36:48(UTC)
Ranjit


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Thank you, Armando. What is the extra coupling and the pins tha come in the box for? Is is for fitting the loco when the tender is detached? Can some of you share pictures of this loco? I just want to make sure the weathering effects are identical and there is nothing that we need to report back to Marklin.

Take care and warm regards,
Ranjit
Modelling in HO Scale - Era III & IV. K+M Track, Analogue + Digital
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Offline Katzenwald  
#9 Posted : 14 October 2004 22:16:26(UTC)
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The pins go in the front of the cylinders for a prototypic look, but they can only be used on scale-prototypical curves (&gt;R5). The extra coupler is for the front, these engines were often run tender-forwards so it is nice to have couplers at both ends.

I understand the weathering is done by hand, so it will vary slightly from sample to sample. I imagine M will increase the road number by one each year without announcing it as a "new" model or changing the model number.

To get inside the tender, there are some slots on the bottom along the edges, you insert a screwdriver and gently twist it to pop the tabs. To reinstall you just press the top down. I don't think you can completely detach the tender without unsoldering some wires, and I have not figured out how to adjust the distance to the tender (I can't reduce it anyway because I have lots of R1 in my M-track layout that the engine must negotiate.)
Offline Ranjit  
#10 Posted : 15 October 2004 03:32:12(UTC)
Ranjit


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Hi Katzenwald,

Thank you for the additional info. Btw, I do have a coupler in the front of the loco. I guess, in my case, the extra coupler is for the back when the tender is detached. Are there any specific instructions on fixing the pins? Also, how does one fix the stoppers inside the acrylic case. Is it simply nailed down in position?

best regards,
Ranjit
Modelling in HO Scale - Era III & IV. K+M Track, Analogue + Digital
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Offline HueyCE  
#11 Posted : 15 October 2004 03:37:28(UTC)
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Ranjit- My wife's 50 does not have any peeling paint. It certainly does not appear as though the tender can be seperated from the loco very easily.
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Offline Katzenwald  
#12 Posted : 15 October 2004 04:25:05(UTC)
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I don't have the birthday model so I don't have the acrylic display base. The "pins" go short end first into the lower holes on the fronts of the cylinders. And I don't know why they included a third coupler for you if there are already couplers at the front and back. Are they all the same? Maybe one is a prototypical (non-working) front coupler. Or maybe one is a Relex coupler to replace the close coupler if you use a lot of older rolling stock with Relex.

You cannot run the engine without the tender (it would get no current, just as the prototype would get no coal and water.) So there would be no point in including an extra coupler for this purpose. maybe they just threw in a spare by mistake.
Offline Sander van Wijk  
#13 Posted : 17 October 2004 23:28:39(UTC)
Sander van Wijk

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Hi all,

About the numbers, as far as I know Märklin is intending to supply this loco for more than one year, with every year the year of birth of people turning 50 that year. So, Lars, with a little luck your loco 50 1957 will be supplied by Märklin in 2007. It's quite easy to do for Märklin, as mentioned by Armando the road number plates are glued on it. So the only thing Märklin will have to is manufacturing new road number plates every year...

Best regards,
Sander
Sander
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Offline steamfriend  
#14 Posted : 18 October 2004 11:13:04(UTC)
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Location: Leuven, Belgiium
Hi all,

I've seen once such a machine at my local dealer. I must say that it looks wonderfull, and that M is on the good track to give their machines a more realistic look ( I am an addict of weathering biggrin). The white spots, come from the chalk in the water, as well as from the additions the fireman has to put in the water to prevent stoning in the boiler. It appears at those places where you can have leaky joints, especially at the steam pickup valves and the feeding valves to the boiler. M does indeed finish these machines by hand. Hence the individual differences - the machines are unique pieces. To my taste, the marks are too heavy (too white), and should be darkened somewhate more. But that is personal taste, isn't it ?

In any case, I wish you good luck with this fine machine, and... well, with your birthday biggrinbiggrin

Cheers,

Bob
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