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Offline Kodiak  
#1 Posted : 24 October 2010 14:40:33(UTC)
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Kodiak


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g'day

I've got a 36120 'Thomas The Tank Engine' which I believe has a miniature FX decoder and when I tried setting it up in on CS2 it wouldn't auto detect the address of the loco and since it has no coding switches I have no idea what the address is.

I've also got a 34880 044 with a Delta decoder and this can be a bit jerky, and is also very noisey, it needs quite a bit of speed on the dial before it starts to move, is this normal? and also shouldn't the motor and such be the same volume as the BR50 in my starter set? or do they have a different motor? Also I'm thinking of maybe putting a MFX decoder with sound into it. Is this a straight swap if I buy a Marklin converion kit 60931, or should I get a new motor for it as well.

Thanks any help

John
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Offline charles Sharpe  
#2 Posted : 24 October 2010 14:59:18(UTC)
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Hello

Have you tried to put it in manually ie using the model no 36120.

Charles.
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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 24 October 2010 20:19:25(UTC)
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Kodiak wrote:
g'day

I've got a 36120 'Thomas The Tank Engine' which I believe has a miniature FX decoder and when I tried setting it up in on CS2 it wouldn't auto detect the address of the loco and since it has no coding switches I have no idea what the address is.

I've also got a 34880 044 with a Delta decoder and this can be a bit jerky, and is also very noisey, it needs quite a bit of speed on the dial before it starts to move, is this normal? and also shouldn't the motor and such be the same volume as the BR50 in my starter set? or do they have a different motor? Also I'm thinking of maybe putting a MFX decoder with sound into it. Is this a straight swap if I buy a Marklin converion kit 60931, or should I get a new motor for it as well.

Thanks any help

John


Hi John,

The 34880 has the standard Marklin DCM 3 pole AC motor. The Br50 from your start set will have the same motor but upgraded to 5 pole, and with a DC field magnet instead of the field coil. You need to upgrade the motor parts in the 34880 to the same standard before you can run it with the mfx decoder.

Have a look at this thread for more info on the parts you will need:

https://www.marklin-user...aspx?g=posts&t=10807
Ray
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Offline nevw  
#4 Posted : 25 October 2010 01:35:22(UTC)
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John,
FX Decoders are not Automatically recognised or registered on the MS CS1 or CS2.
You add the loco by scrolling through the data base and finding and selecting the part no.

It is then set up.

Nev

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Offline Kodiak  
#5 Posted : 25 October 2010 01:53:19(UTC)
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Thanks for the help, ill give all that a try before I head off to work. The v220 I've got with an FX decoder, the CS2 was able to auto detect the address on it. will try the other stuff.
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Offline Kodiak  
#6 Posted : 25 October 2010 06:57:22(UTC)
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Got Thomas working no worries, my young nephews will enjoy seeing him running with the big boys.

As for the individual parts I'm not to sure about that as I can do anything that comes with instructions, but trying to work out exactly what parts I need I'm not too sure about. If I get a conversion kit from Marklin for the motor and MFX, plus the sound module, would the extra decoder fit into my older class 75 from my 2665 set, it was made in 1988-89 and upgrading the decoder would properly be a good idea, although I haven't put it on the tracks yet to see what its like the CS2. Or is there enough room in a 75 to fit a sound decoder? this would be excellent. even if it would have to a ESU or something else.
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If your gona be a bear, be a grizzly!
You have the right to bear arms, the right to arm bears, what ever the hell you wanna do!
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Offline drwhitl  
#7 Posted : 25 October 2010 11:53:17(UTC)
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Kodiak wrote:
g'day

I've got a 36120 'Thomas The Tank Engine' which I believe has a miniature FX decoder and when I tried setting it up in on CS2 it wouldn't auto detect the address of the loco and since it has no coding switches I have no idea what the address is.

I've also got a 34880 044 with a Delta decoder and this can be a bit jerky, and is also very noisey, it needs quite a bit of speed on the dial before it starts to move, is this normal? and also shouldn't the motor and such be the same volume as the BR50 in my starter set? or do they have a different motor? Also I'm thinking of maybe putting a MFX decoder with sound into it. Is this a straight swap if I buy a Marklin converion kit 60931, or should I get a new motor for it as well.

Thanks any help

John


If "Thomas" is still as he was when he came out of the factory, the address should be set for 78. Try that.

The 60931 conversion kits are no longer available from Märklin, and the supposedly super salubrious new Marklin MFX decoders don't appear to be available as retrofit kits yet. You could either wait (maybe for a long time) or more paractically, fit a loksound MFX decoder to it. As someone else has pointed out already, you will want to do the motor upgrade at the same time for best results.

cheers
Dennis
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