marklin-users.net community | Forum

 
Welcome to the forum   
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error
Layouts with boosters and MS2 and CS2
Share
Options
View
Go to last post in this topic Go to first unread post in this topic
Previous Topic Next Topic
Offline Kodiak  
#1 Posted : 28 April 2010 11:26:36(UTC)
Retweet
Kodiak


Joined: 17/02/2010(UTC)
Posts: 145
Location: Melbourne, Australia
I'm getting ready to go digital, and iv been looking at a complete MS2 on ebay, or the era3 Mega start set that comes with a CS2, which is on lokshop as being out 2nd quarter. is the power supply that comes with the MS2 suitable as a second power supply to go along with the CS2? and how after many trains, length of track, is it really necessary to have to have the extra power.

If it was just me with the trains then id wait for the CS2, but I have two small nephews, who are 3 and 6 and would want to get involved and i figure its probably easier for them to have a go with the MS2 then the CS2, would this be correct?
John and his M track, the only way to train. Now with added C track and bonus K track.
If your gona be a bear, be a grizzly!
You have the right to bear arms, the right to arm bears, what ever the hell you wanna do!
Back to top

Wish to join the discussion?! Login to your marklin-users.net community | Forum accountor Register a new forum account. Or Connect via Facebook  
Back to top  
Offline supermoee  
#2 Posted : 28 April 2010 13:45:20(UTC)
Retweet
supermoee

Switzerland   
Joined: 31/05/2007(UTC)
Posts: 534
Kodiak wrote:
is the power supply that comes with the MS2 suitable as a second power supply to go along with the CS2? and how after many trains, length of track, is it really necessary to have to have the extra power.


Hello,

if you connect the MS2 with the CS2, the power supply of the MS2 is not used. The Power supply of the MS2 is integrated into the connection box to the track and this box is not compatible to the CS2. The only MS2 device has no power supply inside.

If you need extra power depends of how much trains are running simultaneously on your layout, if these are illuminated or not, what engines your train have ecc.

It is not depending direclty from the length of the track. You can have 10km of tracks, but if you run only 1 train, you will not need any extra booster. On the oder side who has 50m of tracks and runs 20 trains simultaneously, he will need extra power.

rgds

Stephan
Back to top
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by supermoee
Offline Kodiak  
#3 Posted : 29 April 2010 02:22:42(UTC)
Retweet
Kodiak


Joined: 17/02/2010(UTC)
Posts: 145
Location: Melbourne, Australia
My understanding of the way the MS2 works is, that it no longer uses the 'ugly box' and connects straight up to the track with spade connectors, i would of thought the power from the CS2 would be the same. meaning both power supply could be connected at opposite ends of the layout to double the power supply available. then you could plug the MS2 into either the CS2 or the second power supply. Long term I'm thinking of setting the layout up so i can take to exhibitions, and at the last one i saw, some of the guys with the DCC set up had plugs all around the board so they could sit on the outside of the layout and talk to people about the trains while controlling them. would be good to be able to do something similar with this, even it means i can walk around behind it with the MS2 to fix a loco in the hidden station for example.
John and his M track, the only way to train. Now with added C track and bonus K track.
If your gona be a bear, be a grizzly!
You have the right to bear arms, the right to arm bears, what ever the hell you wanna do!
Back to top
Offline clapcott  
#4 Posted : 29 April 2010 06:59:57(UTC)
Retweet
clapcott

New Zealand   
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC)
Posts: 2,448
Location: Wellington, New_Zealand
Kodiak wrote:
My understanding of the way the MS2 works is, that it no longer uses the 'ugly box' and connects straight up to the track with spade connectors,

This is incorrect. The MS2 connects to a "Track Adapter" #60113 for "HO/N" or #60112 for "1" (It may not be as ugly but it is still a separate box) which then connects to the track.
Power is fed into this Track adapter which acts as the driver (mini booster?) - not in the MS2
The Track Adapter can support 2 MS2s
Quote:
i would of thought the power from the CS2 would be the same. meaning both power supply could be connected at opposite ends of the layout to double the power supply available.

Not a good idea....
- Two (or more) power sources should never be connected directly together
- More importantly, there is no synchronization of the data signals you would get gibberish
Quote:
... then you could plug the MS2 into either the CS2 or the second power supply. Long term I'm thinking of setting the layout up so i can take to exhibitions, and at the last one i saw, some of the guys with the DCC set up had plugs all around the board so they could sit on the outside of the layout and talk to people about the trains while controlling them. would be good to be able to do something similar with this, even it means i can walk around behind it with the MS2 to fix a loco in the hidden station for example.

Marklin offers the Terminal #60125 (four outlets and 2 metre cable) and extension cables #60126 (2 metres) to extend the system bus around the room , but in all cases this goes back to the control centre (CS2 60213/4 for an MS2 OR MS1 , The 60212 will only support the MS1). They do NOT provide another power feed direct to the track.
Note: to plug an MS into the Terminal #60125 you will need a #60124 (10 pin to 7 pin) adapter cable.

UserPostedImage
Peter
Back to top
Offline David Dewar  
#5 Posted : 29 April 2010 13:24:22(UTC)
Retweet
David Dewar

Scotland   
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC)
Posts: 7,448
Location: Scotland
Regarding which you should buy and what it will run I would suggest that the purchase depends on what you wish to spend. I would buy the CS2 start set which although more expensive does give very good value. Kids will be able to operate trains using the CS2 easily (probably better than me knowing the kids of today) Each can control a train using the two knobs on the CS2.
I would wait before buying any boosters to see if they are required. Many layouts with several trains running along with lighted coaches are OK just using a CS2 and track feeds.
dave
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Back to top
Offline Kodiak  
#6 Posted : 29 April 2010 14:39:51(UTC)
Retweet
Kodiak


Joined: 17/02/2010(UTC)
Posts: 145
Location: Melbourne, Australia
The main reason I'm thinking of a MS2 and a CS2 is that the mega starter set isn't out for a while yet, but there's 3 complete MS2's on ebay at the moment. I've also got a Loco on the way with sounds that I'd like to use. Price I don't consider a major factor, if it was I wouldn't have Marklin train's, but I don't see the point in wasting money on a MS2 now, if the CS2 is going to be heaps better in the long run.
John and his M track, the only way to train. Now with added C track and bonus K track.
If your gona be a bear, be a grizzly!
You have the right to bear arms, the right to arm bears, what ever the hell you wanna do!
Back to top
Offline David Dewar  
#7 Posted : 29 April 2010 18:13:05(UTC)
Retweet
David Dewar

Scotland   
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC)
Posts: 7,448
Location: Scotland
Hi John. Glad to see cost is not too much of a problem (although should be considered).
I would wait for the CS2. It is far more advanced than the MS and you can set up your layout on the screen etc and will give you much more pleasure. The MS is OK to attach to a CS2 as a second control but at present yopu may not need that.
Like most here you will be eager to start but rather than go now I would wait for a mega set from a dealer to ensure you get good service and your two year warranty.
I see you have M track and with the free C track you will get with the start set you may find this interesting.

dave
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Back to top
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

| Powered by YAF.NET | YAF.NET © 2003-2025, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.317 seconds.