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Offline Eisenhower  
#1 Posted : 13 August 2004 19:12:22(UTC)
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What is the biggest C-track radius you can create ?
I read somewhere that a R9 is availeble but cant seem to find it anywhere. Is this correct ?
Does anyone have pictures of a c-track layout using R9 (if they exists) or a link to a website where they can be seen ?

Thx in advange
BR
Steen
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Offline nico van zon  
#2 Posted : 13 August 2004 19:41:31(UTC)
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The largest radius is R5, r=643.6 mm
There is a larger one, article number 24912, r=1114.6mm, but this one is meant as a countercurve for the long turnouts.
You could know all this if you would have a Märklin catalogue, which you should have if you are a real Märklin fan!
You could also have a look at the Märklin site, http://www.maerklin.de/produkte/
Offline kimmo  
#3 Posted : 13 August 2004 21:31:30(UTC)
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In Märklin catalog the curve 24912, r=1114.6mm, is also referred to as R9, so both of you are correct. But as Nico points out, R9 is only available in 12.1 degree version to complement the wide radius turnouts and wide angle crossing. It is not available in 30 degree version, as the other radius curves R1 to R5. But still, nothing prevents to use R9 for any purpose.
Kimmo
Offline Webmaster  
#4 Posted : 14 August 2004 00:59:36(UTC)
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For us who do not have the latest catalog, there is always the Produkt-Datenbank on http://www.maerklin.de/produkte/.

Even if it is in German, a Google translation for the 24912 says:
"Radius 1114.6 mm. Elbow 12,1°. Gegenbogen for the slim switch and crossing. Also to the building of distances suitably."

With a little fantasy, the correct meaning is understood... Smile
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Offline Eisenhower  
#5 Posted : 14 August 2004 01:07:43(UTC)
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thx everyone Smile
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Offline rschaffr  
#6 Posted : 14 August 2004 03:16:55(UTC)
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Steen:

I am using a few 24912's in my layout I'm building with C-track. They provide a nice gentle curve in instances where they fit. Perhaps M will bring out a 30 degree version of this curve in the future. I'll take some pictures when I get the layout a little further along...I have to dissassemble part of it to install the ramps I just cut.
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Offline kimmo  
#7 Posted : 14 August 2004 10:39:10(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rschaffr
<br />Perhaps M will bring out a 30 degree version of this curve in the future.
That would be a monster Smile, more than half a meter long.
Kimmo
Offline Tamrac  
#8 Posted : 14 August 2004 17:18:05(UTC)
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I am also using the 29412 in my design in areas where an R5 has just to much curve.
But only in 2 or 3 piece combinations, not a full 1,114.6 circle! ([^]Hmmm. that would make a nice Helix)

From the HO-scale post For Big-Boy Fans

Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:The sharpest curve the Big Boys could negotiate was a 20 degree curve. In HO scale, this would be a 40 inch radius curve.


That's 1,016mm! So Mä, when are we going to start seeing more R9 radius C-Track?
Particularly I wish they made a wide radius Double slip Switch.
Offline john black  
#9 Posted : 14 August 2004 18:51:56(UTC)
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Steen: I guess with that big room you have built for you & your little son that impressive R9 curves should be realised easily - much fun with it Smile! Even a Big Boy might look a little lost on such a big radius ... biggrin

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Offline rschaffr  
#10 Posted : 14 August 2004 19:28:00(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:That would be a monster , more than half a meter long.


True. Hadn't thought of that. Perhaps a 15 degree section?
-Ron
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Offline Nuno  
#11 Posted : 19 August 2004 22:49:12(UTC)
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Hi

I have quite a few 24912 (R9) curves, not only for the long turnouts, but also in other places, whenever possible, as they provide the best look. For instance, in my zero level, where I have (will have) my shadow stations, I "reveal" part of the circuit and that is constituted by a long curve with 24912s. It shows up between 2 tunnels.

With the long radius R9 you do not notice the polygonal line of the train coming out of the track circle..

Cheers,

Nuno Smile
Offline Jacques D.  
#12 Posted : 20 August 2004 09:30:47(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Eisenhower
<br />What is the biggest C-track radius you can create ?
I read somewhere that a R9 is availeble but cant seem to find it anywhere. Is this correct ?
Does anyone have pictures of a c-track layout using R9 (if they exists) or a link to a website where they can be seen ?

Thx in advange
BR
Steen


Hi,

15 24912's make a 181,5 degree curve. The difference between 180 and 181,5 degree spread out over 15 pieces of 24912 is so small that you can perfectly make a 180 degree R9 radius. I did it and it works out fine. Great for Big Boys or big German steamers such as Brawa's DRG 06!

Best regards,

Jacques
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