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Offline RDRBerry  
#1 Posted : 26 December 2009 22:31:37(UTC)
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This amazing layout in Hamburg gets prime billing in James Mays Toy Stories Xmas special.

Apart form being an utterly enjoyable bit of TV [OK he's the same age as me and enjoys all the same things...] The Marklin shown is amazing, the on board Train Camry and the sheer ingenuity and creativity of it..Astounding.
The rest is how they tried to create a 5 mile HO layout on a closed North Devon line...

If you are out of UK and have broadband I think you will be able to get this..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ipl...Mays_Toy_Stories_Hornby/
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 26 December 2009 23:17:42(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RDRBerry
<br />If you are out of UK and have broadband I think you will be able to get this..

Not really:
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Offline RDRBerry  
#3 Posted : 26 December 2009 23:26:09(UTC)
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OK I'll find a torrent site if I can -

sorry to exite...
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Offline Webmaster  
#4 Posted : 26 December 2009 23:40:47(UTC)
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Very British, I must say... Nothing for Continentals to watch... Swedish nationalised television allows any country, but apparently the British have a more restricted view of what "foreigners" are allowed to see...wink

Didn't expect that censorship still rules... The war is over, mates...

I suppose it will be up on some torrent site later... Ep1-4 are, Ep5 (Lego) still isn't...
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Offline Sander van Wijk  
#5 Posted : 27 December 2009 00:04:10(UTC)
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Same issue here... but AFAIK it will be aired (again) tomorrow at 18:45 UK time. I'll definitely try to watch it then. Besides, I'm pretty sure that a search term on Google including the title of the show, s01e06 and something like 'megaupload' will lead to a useful download in a week or two. Smile
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Offline Frostie  
#6 Posted : 27 December 2009 01:28:36(UTC)
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Not being able to view it just sucks !!
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#7 Posted : 27 December 2009 01:31:29(UTC)
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Well, as the series should be interesting, I've not got the Ep1-4... Should be fun with the Scalextric, Meccano and Airfix episodes - all childhood experiences/memories... Will have to watch tomorrow, bedtime here now...
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Offline Heine Pedersen  
#8 Posted : 27 December 2009 01:59:49(UTC)
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I found all episodes on isohunt.com today.
Online river6109  
#9 Posted : 27 December 2009 03:41:08(UTC)
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Try youtube

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#10 Posted : 27 December 2009 05:20:09(UTC)
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Thanks John, there are 6 parts of episode 6 to download, 30-35mb each. I won't say what happened....
Online river6109  
#11 Posted : 27 December 2009 08:17:02(UTC)
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here is another one.
4 Husbands decide to play trains
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Offline steventrain  
#12 Posted : 27 December 2009 09:39:00(UTC)
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I watch it on christmas day on BBC2.

Bid for world record 10 miles of 00 gauge tracks but train stopped after 7 miles.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#13 Posted : 27 December 2009 09:40:10(UTC)
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They should have run Marklin instead.

Hornby rubbish!........biggrin
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#14 Posted : 27 December 2009 10:28:22(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />They should have run Marklin instead.

Hornby rubbish!........biggrin

plus 2 rail.........biggrin
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Offline Goofy  
#15 Posted : 27 December 2009 10:35:25(UTC)
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I have heard too about somebody did destroyed James record layout at the placement of it.

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#16 Posted : 27 December 2009 12:15:52(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />They should have run Marklin instead.

Hornby rubbish!........biggrin


I agreed with you, China make models fail World record bid.[}:)]

Hornby did two times world record (1973 and 1992) with Made in England before moving to China in 1999.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#17 Posted : 27 December 2009 12:27:42(UTC)
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Now lets let our imaginations run wild a bit here! If Marklin had been the choice of MRR run in this world record attempt, which locomotive would you choose? Would it be an older model such as a G800 / GN800 / 3027 / 3047 Br44, a 3015 Krokodil, or something newer?

I would most likely go for one of the original C-Sine powered locos, maybe a 39560 Krokodil, as these are brushless, and would therefore not wear out its brushes. Or perhaps a Big Boy, as these can pull large loads, and I would think might have the stamina to last.....(not sure about those plastic cardan shafts though).
Offline LionelMPC  
#18 Posted : 27 December 2009 21:57:28(UTC)
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I downloaded this, since BBCA will probably not show it for another 2 years here, if ever. Definitely worth watching! The other episodes look to be worth watching too.

-James
Offline JT42CWRDriver  
#19 Posted : 27 December 2009 23:35:53(UTC)
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<br />Very British, I must say... Nothing for Continentals to watch... Swedish nationalised television allows any country, but apparently the British have a more restricted view of what "foreigners" are allowed to see...wink

Didn't expect that censorship still rules... The war is over, mates...

I suppose it will be up on some torrent site later... Ep1-4 are, Ep5 (Lego) still isn't...


Not only us, have you ever tried to watch a US TV programme off of their websites. When I was really keen on Battlestar Galactica they wouldn't even let me view the trailers sometimes!

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Offline RDRBerry  
#20 Posted : 28 December 2009 00:30:31(UTC)
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Gad to see some kind soul sorted this as I was on family duties.

The whole story is just fun, but I do agree the 3 rail would have been more reliable, if, and muse on it, the sheer number of feeds were sorted out .

The bit I was struck with was the Hamburg layout..Amazing is the mentioned Model Rail TV programme on the web ?

Happy 2010..
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Online river6109  
#21 Posted : 28 December 2009 02:36:00(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Now lets let our imaginations run wild a bit here! If Marklin had been the choice of MRR run in this world record attempt, which locomotive would you choose? Would it be an older model such as a G800 / GN800 / 3027 / 3047 Br44, a 3015 Krokodil, or something newer?

I would most likely go for one of the original C-Sine powered locos, maybe a 39560 Krokodil, as these are brushless, and would therefore not wear out its brushes. Or perhaps a Big Boy, as these can pull large loads, and I would think might have the stamina to last.....(not sure about those plastic cardan shafts though).


The C-Sinus, as you've mentioned, would be a better option.
What I could'nt understand, the amount of dirt on the wheels.
The breakdown of the last surviving loco, the motor may have seized up and on the way they've oiled it to keep it going and by doing this the wheeels most properly picked up all the dirt, mixed with oil, stopped the loco of getting proper contact.
The Hamburg Wunderland brothers must of thought if they only would use german model train technology.
It may gave them an idea to duplicate these record dazzling attempts.

regards.,
John
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#22 Posted : 28 December 2009 02:51:08(UTC)
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Yes John, the amount of dirt amazed me as well. You are most likely correct about the over oiling.

It's a shame they did not make it, James May seemed to be very disappointed. Maybe if they had used some better quality trains with something like C track they may have got there.

Just thinking about it, C track would probably been better, as the locos would not have picked up so much dirt as they did with the Hornby track.
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#23 Posted : 28 December 2009 10:35:24(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Yes John, the amount of dirt amazed me as well. You are most likely correct about the over oiling.

It's a shame they did not make it, James May seemed to be very disappointed. Maybe if they had used some better quality trains with something like C track they may have got there.

Just thinking about it, C track would probably been better, as the locos would not have picked up so much dirt as they did with the Hornby track.

the other thing was, what rules did they had to abide by.
I could'nt see them laying 10 miles of track, if they did, no wonder the track's surrounding area would of been full of dirt and dust.
Yes, C-track would of been off the ground, easy to assembly.
When I've looked at the track side it looked like km long.

Oh well, there is always another time.
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Offline steventrain  
#24 Posted : 28 December 2009 11:58:41(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Yes John, the amount of dirt amazed me as well. You are most likely correct about the over oiling.

It's a shame they did not make it, James May seemed to be very disappointed. Maybe if they had used some better quality trains with something like C track they may have got there.

Just thinking about it, C track would probably been better, as the locos would not have picked up so much dirt as they did with the Hornby track.


As you seee there is some rain on tracks.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#25 Posted : 28 December 2009 12:36:29(UTC)
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Rain wouldn't help matters either!

I tried to use Dale Schultz's CALC program to calculate how many C tracks I would need to make up 10 miles (16 Kms).

16000000 (the number of mm in 10 miles) was too big a number for the program, so I had to use an ordinary calculator.

You would need 84971 24188 C track pieces to make up a length of 10 miles (assuming a straight line), for a total of 16000039.3 mm.
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#26 Posted : 28 December 2009 17:00:09(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Rain wouldn't help matters either!

I tried to use Dale Schultz's CALC program to calculate how many C tracks I would need to make up 10 miles (16 Kms).

16000000 (the number of mm in 10 miles) was too big a number for the program, so I had to use an ordinary calculator.

You would need 84971 24188 C track pieces to make up a length of 10 miles (assuming a straight line), for a total of 16000039.3 mm.


that's a good fact to knowbiggrin

1. I wonder how many miles (or kilometers) of C track have been produced?

1. how many miles of K track have been produced?

3. how many miles of M track have been produced?confused
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#27 Posted : 30 December 2009 01:14:45(UTC)
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The Miniatur Wunderland got another airing on ZDF, the german channel yesterday. Check out www.zdf.de, Drescheibe Deutschland of 28.12.2009. In German, but there is over 43mins of coverage. Interesting stuff.
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#28 Posted : 30 December 2009 15:11:42(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />You would need 84971 24188 C track pieces to make up a length of 10 miles (assuming a straight line), for a total of 16000039.3 mm.

Google sez: "10 miles = 16.09344 kilometers"
With 188,34 mm per track you need 85449 track pieces to get over 10 miles.
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#29 Posted : 30 December 2009 15:35:20(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />You would need 84971 24188 C track pieces to make up a length of 10 miles (assuming a straight line), for a total of 16000039.3 mm.

Google sez: "10 miles = 16.09344 kilometers"
With 188,34 mm per track you need 85449 track pieces to get over 10 miles.


It will be about 200 extra tracks for siding and passing loop.
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#30 Posted : 30 December 2009 16:31:34(UTC)
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I just watched it - a real thriller.

He doesn't speak of vandalism on the show.
Here's something I found:
http://www.dailymail.co....ailed-vandal-attack.html
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Offline steventrain  
#31 Posted : 30 December 2009 18:37:42(UTC)
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<br />I just watched it - a real thriller.

He doesn't speak of vandalism on the show.
Here's something I found:
http://www.dailymail.co....ailed-vandal-attack.html


I have see the site before, Some bad guys put coins on tracks and battery stolen.[xx(]
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#32 Posted : 30 December 2009 18:42:36(UTC)
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I also just watched the entire video. Very nice...too bad that they didn't make the entire ten miles, but what an effort!
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#33 Posted : 30 December 2009 23:37:26(UTC)
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I agree, it was a good show. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have had the same problems with 3-rail. 2-rail dc does gum up wheels rather quickly. I used to have to clean wheels on my dc stock quite regularly and I'm sure they never went 10 miles. I've not had to clean one Marklin wheel unless it was a purchase of a rather old item. I think it has something to do with the difference between ac and dc. Still, I think 7 miles was a good effort with all the adverse conditions.

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#34 Posted : 10 January 2010 20:08:22(UTC)
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