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Bigdaddynz		#151 Posted : 21 November 2009 23:25:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Great photo, thanks Piet. Any time I have had smoke unit problems, the problem has been what Goofy and Roland refer to - no contact between the contact and the smoke unit. Stephen, hope you enjoy your Br39. It certainly is a great Marklin model.
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pab		#152 Posted : 22 November 2009 17:26:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 2,764		Thank you for all your advises and nice words. The wire definitely touched the copper spring. I tested the smoke unit seperate from the the locomotive and it worked fine. It's not the only thing that is wrong. The two lower lights of the headlights didn't work either, the top light does. There might be something wrong in the circuits. It's a brand new loc, so she is going back to the dealer. [:(][V]
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foumaro		#153 Posted : 22 November 2009 19:37:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,431 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		If the dealer is OK,he must take this loco and give you another one.I am sorry for your bad luck my friend.[V]
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jeehring		#154 Posted : 22 November 2009 21:00:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pab <br />Thank you for all your advises and nice words. The wire definitely touched the copper spring. I tested the smoke unit seperate from the the locomotive and it worked fine. I was not talking about the wire feeding the small copper strip. I was talking about the contact between the Seuthe Tube and the copper strip when you push the tube in the funnel... .. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pab <br />It's not the only thing that is wrong. The two lower lights of the headlights didn't work either, the top light does. Did you try a small "push in"( very small) on your lights ? it was happenning to me on BR 59, I just gave a small pressure on it and it works fine now...(it was a faulty contact)
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pab		#155 Posted : 22 November 2009 21:38:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 2,764		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pab <br />Thank you for all your advises and nice words. The wire definitely touched the copper spring. I tested the smoke unit seperate from the the locomotive and it worked fine. I was not talking about the wire feeding the small copper strip. I was talking about the contact between the Seuthe Tube and the copper strip when you push the tube in the funnel... .. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pab <br />It's not the only thing that is wrong. The two lower lights of the headlights didn't work either, the top light does. Did you try a small "push in"( very small) on your lights ? it was happenning to me on BR 59, I just gave a small pressure on it and it works fine now...(it was a faulty contact) Yes, the bus did touch the copper strip too. I know that problem with the BR 59. I have a Württemberger K. I didn't check that, but the construction of the K headlights is different. Maybe will try tomorrow. The shop is closed on mondays.
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steventrain		#156 Posted : 24 November 2009 15:39:17(UTC) Retweet
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pa-pauls		#157 Posted : 24 November 2009 16:19:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />Arrive mine today. Nice Steven Gratulation's it's a very nice locomotive I got a e-mail yesterday that my seller has the wagon set 42269 for me to pick up next week on the way to Göppingen [:p]
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steventrain		#158 Posted : 24 November 2009 20:41:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Pictures of My 39390.
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pab		#159 Posted : 24 November 2009 22:24:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 2,764		Congratulations on your BR 39 Stephen. Mine is already on it's way back. Hope wil have it back soon.
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steventrain		#160 Posted : 24 November 2009 23:09:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks, Piet.
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Bigdaddynz		#161 Posted : 25 November 2009 00:22:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Great picture, thanks Stephen. You must be very pleased to finally have your Br39.
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steventrain		#162 Posted : 25 November 2009 22:21:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Great picture, thanks Stephen. You must be very pleased to finally have your Br39. Thanks, David.
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Davy		#163 Posted : 03 December 2009 19:56:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		I have my br 39. Beautiful loc, drives nice but the sound decoder had problems so the loc has gone on a trip to Marklin.
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Davy		#164 Posted : 04 December 2009 16:43:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		I get a warning from a marklin dealer this day. If you put a smokegenerator in your loc be very careful. The smokegeneratuur is to close to the leds and the heat from the smoke generator can melt them. He had already send back 3 br 39 with this problem.
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davemr		#165 Posted : 04 December 2009 17:25:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Hi Davy. Makes you wonder why they dont test them before sending them to shops.
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Davy		#166 Posted : 04 December 2009 18:23:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		There is no time to test everything. Time is money and we also don't want to pay more already. With the smokegenerator they have make a big mistake.
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Goofy		#167 Posted : 04 December 2009 18:41:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Time is not money! It is bad quality at locomotiv!!!
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davemr		#168 Posted : 04 December 2009 21:33:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Hi Goofy For once I agree with you. It will take up much more time and money by not testing and getting locos back for repair etc. Not to mention lots of unhappy customers. Hopefully a new owner will bring back Marklin quality.
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Armando		#169 Posted : 06 December 2009 07:00:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		I got mine today. Excellent first impressions, both in terms of detailing as well as sounds. I was almost startled by the sheer power of the sound! It's thundering loud! Love the red-painted wheels. Maybe will not install smoke generator just yet, before I gather more information on factory flaw about it (too close to headlight leds?). It looks regal with my Fleischmann Era III (former Prussian) coaches. I hope there will be a reissue in original livery.
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Bigdaddynz		#170 Posted : 06 December 2009 12:10:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Oh dear! Sounds like Marklin has scored an 'own goal' with this model in regard to the smoke generator. I was going to get one, but maybe I should wait and see what happens. A big pity really, the Br39 is such a great model, it is wrong not to have smoke coming from it. Has anyone with a Br39 got smoke in theirs yet?
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river6109		#171 Posted : 06 December 2009 12:25:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Looks like someone has forgotten to include the smokegenerator when it was designed or no one picked up on the heat it disperses. the sparepart list does'nt give you enough clues where the smokegenerator actually sits or fits into. It does'nt say anything about leds but one can say it is in the same close area. Would'nt it be good if Märklin designs a new smokegenerator for this loco, laying horizontal in the boiler. Here are some pictures from the prototype http://www.traktionswand...aeste/gal-schikorr2.html regards., John
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TimR		#172 Posted : 06 December 2009 14:11:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Interesting that such a new model could have such a basic design problem.... and this is an Insider model too, which make it particularly embarassing. So much about improving quality... looks like Marklin still have much to learn.
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Armando		#173 Posted : 06 December 2009 18:17:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		I am going to write an email to Marklin in Germany to ask about this potential problem with the smoke generator. I wonder what they have to say. If they give me the go-ahead, I'll install one in mine (and will keep my fingers crossed!).
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Davy		#174 Posted : 07 December 2009 00:50:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		I have not hear this form my own dealer also and not on german forums also. But he is a marklin dealer in a town next to muy own. But I think he was not lying also.
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Bigdaddynz		#175 Posted : 07 December 2009 01:19:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Lutz, there is a discrepancy between the catalog and the Br39 manual as to which smoke unit is the correct one for this model. The catalog says 7226, the manual says 72270. I believe the manual to be correct - is that correct? Hopefully the people with the problems with smoke units haven't tried to fit the wrong one! (Mind you, it would be very hard to mount a 7226 in a hole intended for a 72270 without causing serious damage.)
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Davy		#176 Posted : 07 December 2009 01:41:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Lutz, there is a discrepancy between the catalog and the Br39 manual as to which smoke unit is the correct one for this model. The catalog says 7226, the manual says 72270. I believe the manual to be correct - is that correct? Hopefully the people with the problems with smoke units haven't tried to fit the wrong one! (Mind you, it would be very hard to mount a 7226 in a hole intended for a 72270 without causing serious damage.) You are correct in this.
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Bigdaddynz		#177 Posted : 07 December 2009 03:00:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Thanks Davy!
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davemr		#178 Posted : 07 December 2009 13:59:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Good way to sell extra smoke units. You buy the wrong one first then get the right one. lol. Armando.let us know the reply from Marklin which will give us the info on the model
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river6109		#179 Posted : 07 December 2009 14:06:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Kohle schaufeln = for future references. regards., John
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laalves		#180 Posted : 08 December 2009 03:05:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Looking at my BR39, it's definitely a 72270. A 7226 DOES NOT fit unless you drill the smoke stack .
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Bigdaddynz		#181 Posted : 08 December 2009 04:03:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />...unless you drill the smoke stack . Or if you are Mr Bean, a hammer! [:0][:0]
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Armando		#182 Posted : 08 December 2009 19:08:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		For those interested, this is the reply that I received (overnight!) from the Märklin Service Center in Germany. My question was if they had experienced any problems with the installation of the corresponding smoke generator in the insider locomotive, which eventually might cause damage to the LEDs due to overheating. "Sehr geehrter Herr Garcia, ein klares nein! Es gut nur was kaputt wenn der Rauchgenerator unsachgemäß eingebaut wurde! (Nicht komplett durchgesteckt usw.) Nur ein Hinweis, vergleichen Sie die Platinen der 01er 18.3 die sind mechanisch gleich aufgebaut. Mit freundlichen Grüßen i.A. Märklin- Service- Team" Which, in English words means, that this in no way is true about the BR 39. There should be no problems with the smoke generator, unless it is installed in an inappropiately way (it has to go all the way through). They encourage me to compare the plate base for the smoke generator on the BR39 with the one on BR 18.3, which are identically designed. Hope this helps to dissipate concerns, as the answer comes straight from the horse's mouth. Well, I'll do my trial by fire as soon as I receive the 72270 smoke generator.
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Bigdaddynz		#183 Posted : 08 December 2009 21:30:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Thanks Armando.
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jeehring		#184 Posted : 08 December 2009 22:18:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		1/there are several types of smoke unit on the market.... 2/ what happens with digital command : the function may stay activated whithout you pay attention to it...while there is no more smoke liquid .It may happen to people as they have just bought a new model as they like to test all the functions. Also occurring as you forget to desactivate the smoke function while the generator is empty. It has been happenning to me as I was a beginner in digital...So the empty generator may over heat during a long time - hours & hours - as long as the Lok stay on the rails with the central switched on , even if the Lok is not running... When the smoke generator is empty, on the lok there is not any visible sign showing that the function remains activated...( which is the difference with other functions. With lights or sound or telex, we know if functions are activated or not)
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river6109		#185 Posted : 09 December 2009 09:47:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Althgough the answer is "NO" , I've had queries in the past, with a definite problem and the answer came back: There is nothing wrong so far we can see. Example: BR 03.10 (29845) electronic Gearlight assembly, was'nt screwed down properly, moved sideways and touched the chromed metal bars on the side. shortened the Aux 2 function. Did'nt want to know about it. Later send decoder on it's own, queried the receival of my little parcel, received the 3 red control knobs from my MS but denied they've received the decoder. they also pointed out, even if they would of received the decoder, they've would'nt of fixed it because I did'nt send the whole Loco with it. The only difference is, the smokegenerator is an after accessory whereas the gearlight was installed by the factory, secondly the heat of the smokegenerator, when playing for hours, there could be the possibility that the damage to ledlights still be a chance to occur. We wait and see. Maybe someone of this forum who has a BR 39, has the mechanical and technical ability to report back on this. regards., John
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monster134		#186 Posted : 09 December 2009 14:02:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2007(UTC) Posts: 705 Location: ,		Oeefff!!!!Its mighty close....i am not too sure i want to test it.I can see that if the smoke generator isnt pressed right up in the chimney,that it will destroy the LED. Ive oiled my chimney and pressed the generator right up,and even so it presses the metal contact for the smoker right down.....i rate no more than 2mm from that LED.Now...it sits at the bottom of the smoker.I have no idea how hot the bottom gets.But im going to test now. Hold thumbs that i dont **** anything up.
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pab		#187 Posted : 09 December 2009 15:24:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 2,764		The smokeunit in my BR39 didn't work (outside the loc it did) and the the lower lights ogf the headlights didn't work. So I had to send the loc back to M.
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monster134		#188 Posted : 09 December 2009 16:08:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2007(UTC) Posts: 705 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pab <br />The smokeunit in my BR39 didn't work (outside the loc it did) and the the lower lights ogf the headlights didn't work. So I had to send the loc back to M. Did you put the 2 front bodyscrews back?Cos thats the earth for the smoke unit.Without those it wont work. The lower lights might well be the lower LED on the board blown. Either way it had to go back didnt it? Guys...i cant stress enough how important it is to press that smoker all the way in....i should do a thread on its own....
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TimR		#189 Posted : 09 December 2009 17:31:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		I can only conclude that from the overall presentation of the model; everything's work properly. So it is not wrong for Marklin to say that there is nothing wrong with the model. ...but there is also a thing called "margin of error". How big is the safety margin to any possible errors on the end-user environment? Some models unfortunately had less error margins in unexpected quarter than others - which led to disappointments...
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monster134		#190 Posted : 10 December 2009 09:55:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2007(UTC) Posts: 705 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR <br />I can only conclude that from the overall presentation of the model; everything's work properly. So it is not wrong for Marklin to say that there is nothing wrong with the model. ...but there is also a thing called "margin of error". How big is the safety margin to any possible errors on the end-user environment? Some models unfortunately had less error margins in unexpected quarter than others - which led to disappointments... Thing is though,with models this detailed and compact....things are going to get tight. And obviously if they spent a lot of time on a model,you as end owner should also spent a little time and make sure you add things as they were intended. I prefer the new complex models.Hell they look good on a track.And frankly,very proud to be a Marklinist. Lets face it,there is no BR23 or BR39 on the market today that can compare. It feels good.
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steventrain		#191 Posted : 13 December 2009 09:45:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		42269 Coaches is on way in few days.
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Bigdaddynz		#192 Posted : 13 December 2009 10:06:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Nice Stephen. I've ordered some 00774 'Umbauwagens' for mine - but just a set of 4 only.
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Bigdaddynz		#193 Posted : 13 December 2009 11:48:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />The 00774 'Umbauwagen' set is on green light. Yes David, It's on it's way to Norway Got all 16 for � 429,- Wow, can you fit them all in one picture?? [:O]
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steventrain		#194 Posted : 13 December 2009 12:36:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Nice Stephen. Thanks David, Will post pictures when arrive.
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steventrain		#195 Posted : 15 December 2009 23:41:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		42269 matching coaches arrive today. The top was 42230 have different green livery.
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Bigdaddynz		#196 Posted : 28 December 2009 10:41:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Very nice, thanks for posting the pictures Stephen. I'm still waiting for my Umbauwagens, I guess they may be delayed a week or so because of the Christmas / New Year holidays. And if any one wants a Br39, here's one with a Buy Now of 389 euros. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/w...geName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123
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steventrain		#197 Posted : 28 December 2009 12:17:19(UTC) Retweet
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Davy		#198 Posted : 29 December 2009 14:46:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		I have my br 39 back. The problem I had is not completly gone, but the sitution is much better now. Sound on my m-track layout keeps working now. But the br 39 remains sensitive for dirty track. I will give the loc some time. And see what will happen. The br 39 has not driven on the club layout yet. But I think that I will buy no more steamers with a softdrive sinus engine anymore. Exeptions may be the br 64.
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davemr		#199 Posted : 29 December 2009 21:55:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Hi Davy. I think you are just unlucky. My Br 05 is one of the best running locos I have. I presume you have checked the pickup as the softdrive motor should not respond any worse to dirt than other motors. Hope it will run well for you in the future.
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Davy		#200 Posted : 30 December 2009 01:28:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		It is not the SDS engine but the decoder and the elektronic. They use. Marklin has a lot of problems with the br 39 and br 23.
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