Hi,

I'm sure Mike have info on these but any other info are welcome:

I have found two Lima BLS EWI cars; one baggage and one pullman. Are they any good? Do you have a price estimate for mint examples?

Thanks for the answers.

Cem.

Maurice hi,

Yes, it helps a great deal. I found them for about 10 Euros, which I think a fair price considering domestic shipping. I wonder about the quality; I know Lima used to make really good stuff around late 80's.

Cem.

Cem,

The Lima baggage cars (EWII) were from an earlier production and not from the same series as the 272mm EWI coaches.
The buffers, gangway connections and bogies were not very well designed. In the late 1980s, the undercarriage of the baggage car and restaurant coach were modified to include the close coupling shaft. These coaches were sold with the newer 1:87 (272mm) EWI coaches but looked very cheap in comparison.

If you are looking for a SBB or BLS baggage coach, I would recommend that you look for the Roco models, which are much better designed.

The newer Lima BLS Coaches were:
309510, 513 (1970s). 309511, 514 (1980s) and 309512 (1960-70s Green)
The updated older baggage coaches were 309525 (1970s), 309524 (1960s Green) and 309526 (1980s). There were also other models in the 1990s with modified liveries.

I love the Lima EWI. They were so well designed that Hag decided to buy the shells and adapt them for their own models. Liliput likely used the Lima model as a basis for their own model a few years back. There are similarities between the models that do not relate to the prototype which seem to confirm this, ie the cut out on the inside end of the bogie frame. On the Lima model, this feature existed to anchor the normal coupler. On the Liliput model, this feature is recreated but without function.

For a brand new or mint Lima EWI from the 1980s/1990s production. prices could range from US$30 to $75). For the older ones and the baggage car, I would not pay more than $15-20 each.

Regards

Mike C

Hi Cem,
Sorry, I do not understand the EW type. Is that Swiss?
I have been researching the CIWL car types (Orient Express and Simplon Orient Express), and found that Jouef and Rivarossi seem to have the best models. These trains ran to Turkey.
The Jouef range from 10-50 Euros, and the Rivarossi from about 75-125 Euros.
regards
Kimball

Yep, that's the one. I'll send photos when I receive the cars: I bought 3; 1 BLS and 2 SBB.

I will try to convert one of the SBB to SOB Bistro; what would you think about a project like this Mike? If I'm not mistaken some company was doing the same conversion.

Cem.

Pietro hi,

Thanks for the warning, I will try to fit Märklin wheels.

Cem.

ok then, will try to find Lima ones first.

Cem.

Oh, ok, I get it now

Thanks for clearing this

Cem.