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FMS		#1 Posted : 20 June 2009 18:38:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 839 Location: PT		Hi! Still aiming for the vintage layout. I got this tank engine and I'm pleased with the fact. There was a problem but the dealer fixed it. She's nice and heavy!
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steventrain		#2 Posted : 20 June 2009 18:52:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice, I got one from 29185 starter set last month.
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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al_pignolo		#3 Posted : 20 June 2009 19:53:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 904 Location: bologna, BO		It's a very good loco! I have 3031 too. The most surprising thing is its weight compared to size... an high density loco. You're lucky. It seems in very good conditions compared to its age! Does it have the box? Pietro
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Brakepad		#4 Posted : 20 June 2009 20:41:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 633 Location: Montlouis sur Loire, France		If Märklin had an eighth wonder...it would be difficult to find out if it was 3031 or 3047 model. It's incredible that so many things can be inside this little loco. Telex couplers are incredible. Congatulations on its condition.
		check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
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steventrain		#5 Posted : 21 June 2009 12:34:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		It is Year 1972 - 1974 model.
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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FMS		#6 Posted : 22 June 2009 02:04:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 839 Location: PT		Hi!Steven, I tought that this one was from the 60's...why do You say that is 72-74 model? I need to learn much more about the hobby...[:I]
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intruder		#7 Posted : 22 June 2009 02:17:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Views messages in topic : 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		The old style Br81 is on my wishing list. Very nice, FMS! I do not agree fully with Stephen about the age. I would say it is from 1964-1971. Before 1964 it had an additional lever to change the driving direction manually. After 1971 it had a "DB" logo and the 81 004 printed on the cabin walls and 81 004 printed in both ends.
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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rcorreia		#8 Posted : 22 June 2009 02:30:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 255 Location: Lisboa, Portugal		Hi FMS... that's a very nice locomotive. I also have one and it's absolutely sturdy metal ... or should I call it "Heavy Metal"???
		Ricardo Correia Lisboa, Portugal http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Meinburg/123173834418570
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FMS		#9 Posted : 23 June 2009 23:54:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 839 Location: PT		Hi there! So, what construction date should I consider?
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FMS		#10 Posted : 09 July 2009 22:41:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 839 Location: PT		Still aiming for that Vintage Layout. I'm waiting for two TM800 and track (3rails M track). What is Your opinion about the model TM800?
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WelshMatt		#11 Posted : 09 July 2009 23:24:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,345 Location: ,		I have an early TM800 that I restored and fitted a Delta decoder to. Runs very sweetly when properly oiled and makes a great heavy shunter as it has a metal body and chassis. I replaced the original pickup skates with a modern-style slider from Eckert Engineering, so it can shuffle my TEE/IC/EC fleet around (with a suitable reach wagon as the old TM800 couplers won't work with modern close couplers). Before and after shots:
		Matt from Wales. When you pay Range Rover prices, don't accept Lada quality
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drstapes		#12 Posted : 10 July 2009 00:56:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2004(UTC) Posts: 764 Location: Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk		I have a TM on my layout at the moment pulling a branch line mixed goods consist. Works very well as long as you don't mind the "jump" of the 2 click reverser. I would certainly recommend it as a sturdy workhorse. regards
		Regards Geoff (UK) marklin HO from the 50's and 60's
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WelshMatt		#13 Posted : 10 July 2009 02:05:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,345 Location: ,		The reverser in mine was completely dead. A pity as I'd have like to get it working in original form, but the Delta upgrade isn't visible from outside and makes it a lot more useful on a modern layout.
		Matt from Wales. When you pay Range Rover prices, don't accept Lada quality
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Brakeman		#14 Posted : 10 July 2009 06:54:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 304 Location: Southern California		They don't make them like they used to! BR 81 is the best shunting engine ever made. 2-rail DC people still get amazed by the Telex coupling. Ours is actually a Primex 3196 we bought as never used from eBay for almost nothing. We put a Lokpilot chip and Hamo magnet in it. It's runs great and is a pleasure to operate. BR, Juha http://share.ovi.com/alb...brakeman.3032Loksoundcon
		Era III DB & US Southwest transition era. http://www.etesocal.org/ https://www.youtube.com/user/BrakemanHO/videos
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FMS		#15 Posted : 11 July 2009 01:24:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 839 Location: PT		Hi there! Today I received the folowing item.It seems to work, I need to clean it. I also received one with no box that doesn't look to good. It works but You can tell that she suffered a lot.
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Minibahn		#16 Posted : 13 July 2009 15:22:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 137 Location: ,		Hello, the 3031 was my first Marklin engine in 1959, 50 years later, the 81 has changed very much : Not Intel but China inside :
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RayF		#17 Posted : 13 July 2009 15:39:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Might (or might not) be made in China, but it now has a smoother drive, invisble gears, and see-through cab. In my opinion the only negative is that they have left off the valve gear, but that was quite over-scale anyway. Has anyone actually made comparative tests of the new vs. old Br81?
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Caplin		#18 Posted : 13 July 2009 17:16:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Without knowning so much of the old classic M* models, are we talking about the same loco throughout the topic? Some pictures show 'D' while others show 'C' wheel arrangement.
		Regards, Benny - Outsider and MFDWPL
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Minibahn		#19 Posted : 13 July 2009 17:27:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 137 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Caplin <br />are we talking about the same loco throughout the topic? Some pictures show 'D' while others show 'C' wheel arrangement. Hello, we are speaking about two engines, the TM 800 (C) and the 3031 (D).
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RayF		#20 Posted : 13 July 2009 20:27:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		TM800, also known after 1956 as 3004, is a model of the Br 80, 0-6-0, or C wheel arrangement. 3031 is a model of the Br81, with a 0-8-0, or D wheel arrangement. The 3031 was also available as a 3032 without Telex coupling. Whereas the Br81 has been almost continuously available from either Marklin or Primex over the years, the Br80 disappeared in 1958. A much newer and better detailed model of the Br80 emerged 30 years later in 1988 as the 3304, and variations of it have been available on and off since then. There was also a Br80 produced under the Primex brand from 1985 under the number 3190, but this was a simple model actually based on the Marklin Br89, with the side tanks modified.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Caplin		#21 Posted : 13 July 2009 21:46:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Minibahn <br />we are speaking about two engines, the TM 800 (C) and the 3031 (D). ... just like the heading says - silly me! [:o)]
		Regards, Benny - Outsider and MFDWPL
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Caplin		#22 Posted : 13 July 2009 21:59:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,497 Location: Denmark		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />TM800, also known after 1956 as 3004, is a model of the Br 80, 0-6-0, or C wheel arrangement. Whereas the Br81 has been almost continuously available from either Marklin or Primex over the years, the Br80 disappeared in 1958. Very interesting. As a small boy I remember, my father was on a business trip to Germany (probably in the mid 1950's) and he brought back for me the smallest Märklin loco available - must have been the BR 80. But unfortunately we lived in an old flat in Copenhagen, where the Mains Voltage in the entire area was 220 VDC - not AC. So no play with that. Now I know that I should have stored it away for the future, but I didn't. [V] Several years went by before the 220 VDC was replaced by 220 VAC, but then the loco was long gone.
		Regards, Benny - Outsider and MFDWPL
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FMS		#23 Posted : 13 July 2009 22:55:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 839 Location: PT		Hi Charles, Something I can tell You, these don't look chinese inside...at all!
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