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Offline Bayer  
#1 Posted : 09 May 2009 21:15:22(UTC)
Bayer


Joined: 16/06/2008(UTC)
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Location: Helsingør, Denmark
Just browsing the internet, I stumbled over two great article about the history of the Märklin CCS, and thought that some of you guys would like itwink. The first one is about the CCS 66/12920 and CCS 66/12921 and the second article is about the CCS 800 and the newer crocodiles made by Märklin

http://www-personal.umic...miska/_derived/CCS66.htm
http://www-personal.umic...d/00-H0%20Crocodiles.htm

When reading, I noticed that Jacques Vuye from this forum was mentioned in the second article, saying that Märklin, when the replika crocodile 30159 was produced in 1996, had to call the retired workers to help assembling the 30159. Is this true at some points or just a rumor? I had never thought that the CCS 800 was so difficult to assemble, but maybe I have to try myself. I've been looking for an old CCS 800 from before the 50's, but even though many of them were in very bad shape and were suffering for zinc pest, they were sold for around 1000 €.

Enjoy the articles and I hope that they haven't already been posted before.

Kind regards,
Thor
Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 09 May 2009 21:48:30(UTC)
steventrain

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Interesting site, Thanks.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline CCS800KrokHunter3  
#3 Posted : 10 May 2009 00:02:29(UTC)
CCS800KrokHunter3

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Great articles,

I remember several months ago a CCS 66/12921 in a South American country (maybe Ecuador?) that sold for around $10,000...because the buyer offered the seller this amount and canceled the auction. I followed the auction and saw the CCS resurface at auction in Germany and didn't sell with a "Reserve Not Met" at around $23,000. I contacted the original seller in Ecuador and he said he found the lok along with two passenger cars (Gauge I) in his closet or something. They were very rusty and the lok was missing many parts.

A picture from the German seller's auction:

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Regards,

William
Offline jvuye  
#4 Posted : 10 May 2009 01:01:11(UTC)
jvuye

Belgium   
Joined: 01/03/2008(UTC)
Posts: 2,883
Location: South Western France
Since you mentionned my name and since I have had dozen of them to restore and repair...
The CCS800/ 3015 is complex to assemble, but not further than it just takes time.
To get it to run smoothly without wobbling and shaking along the track is a totally different matter.
To have that process running smoothly in a mass production environment...
After 1951, practically no zinkpest to complain about.
It is the older versions , which had a flimsy design to start with and using recycled metals (High content of Al and SO2 from recycled war materials) that are the problem.
You just try...wink
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learned to be better and had great success!
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