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pmgsr		#1 Posted : 30 April 2009 19:16:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 200 Location: Lisbon, Lisbon		Anyone knows about a "small" Dam for a H0 layout? I can't seem to find it. On a post by Bigdaddynz on the section "Layout i visited" i saw this picture... i don't quite know what that wall behind the power plant is... because there's no river/lake behind it... bu something like that is what i need. Thanks.
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spitzenklasse		#2 Posted : 30 April 2009 20:24:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,573 Location: ,		Greetings Pedro! I think it is actually a hydro-electric plant by Faller.
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spitzenklasse		#3 Posted : 30 April 2009 20:26:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,573 Location: ,		In areas around the Alps, mountain waters are harnessed through those tubes underground, and carried to the power plant. That is how the Gotthard Bahn was electrified in the early 1900's.
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pmgsr		#4 Posted : 30 April 2009 23:28:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 200 Location: Lisbon, Lisbon		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by spitzenklasse <br />In areas around the Alps, mountain waters are harnessed through those tubes underground, and carried to the power plant. That is how the Gotthard Bahn was electrified in the early 1900's. We're allways learning :-) In Portugal (well, all the south of europe) dams are a little bit different.
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pmgsr		#5 Posted : 30 April 2009 23:32:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 200 Location: Lisbon, Lisbon		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by spitzenklasse <br />Greetings Pedro! I think it is actually a hydro-electric plant by Faller. I can't find it... maybe it was discontinued! The transformer station i already have it.
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Roman		#6 Posted : 01 May 2009 00:13:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2002(UTC) Posts: 871		I may be mistaken, not unusual, but I believe Pola also made the trio of dam, sub station, and generator plant. They usually go for around $35 each on Ebay as far as I remember. Try Pola 619 "Auertal" dam kit. It does break as such on a search. http://www.hobbyrealm.co...ffset=35250&ID=40803
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jonquinn		#7 Posted : 01 May 2009 00:59:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		why not scratch build it using foam and some sort of plaster or joint compound to mimic the concrete portion? there are paints and pigments that Walthers sells that do a pretty good job or looking like concrete, made by Floquil and Woodland Scenics. there are many types - some are all earthen, all concrete, or a combination of the two.
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mike c		#8 Posted : 01 May 2009 10:30:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,243 Location: Montreal, QC		If I had one I would give it to you, but since I don't have one, I don't give a dam... The Faller kit is a power station. The dam holding the water would be higher in the mountains with the pipes carrying water from the dam down to the generator station. Just call up your favorite dealer and ask them: "Do you have that dam model from Faller?" I am sure that you will get some colorful replies. Regards, Mike C
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jvuye		#9 Posted : 01 May 2009 11:02:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 2,883 Location: South Western France		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mike c Just call up your favorite dealer and ask them: "Do you have that dam model from Faller?" I am sure that you will get some colorful replies. Regards, Mike C I dig that!
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Bigdaddynz		#10 Posted : 01 May 2009 11:42:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Now I saw this very model somewhere else just recently, but I can't remember where..... It had the Dam and the power station together. I'll try and retrace my steps!
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fvri		#11 Posted : 01 May 2009 13:23:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/10/2002(UTC) Posts: 773 Location: Zwevezele,		Hi Pedro, The dam is called Lauertalsperre, Meister Modell (nr HO 619) from Pola... BTW. I have it on my layout, you can see it in one of the pictures in the topic : https://www.marklin-user...ult.aspx?g=posts&t=11715 http://www.hood.de/aucti...erre-neu-ovp-nr-619-.htm TIP: At www.vanbiervliet.com they usually have it and they do ship international. Good luck! Best regards, Frank
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mascagni		#12 Posted : 01 May 2009 14:41:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		BTW, I think this is NOT a dam, but part of a hydroelectric power station. Yes, there is water that is stored at a high altitude, to store it's gravitational potential energy, but most likely it is stored in a large cistern, and not necessarily in the open. During periods of high load on the power grid, water is let out of the cisterns to generate electrical power. Then, when the load on the grid is lower (as is the cost of the electricity), water is pumped back up into the cistern. This is really an electrical storage device.--MM
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Roman		#13 Posted : 01 May 2009 21:47:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2002(UTC) Posts: 871		http://cgi.ebay.ch/Lauer...egoryZ9967QQcmdZViewItem Here is an ended auction for the model. It appears built up and very expensive IMO. I would go with what jonquinn suggests. You can stretch and widen it as needed. The transformer station and power house look a bit more difficult to copy otherwise. I did enter the name on Google Earth and found Glörtalsperre Instead. If you look at the pictures on the following link you can see the spillways in action and empty. The model of course isn't to the grand scale of the dam itself but just the more elaborate section with the ramparts. http://commons.wikimedia...egory:Gl%C3%B6rtalsperre
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Bigdaddynz		#14 Posted : 02 May 2009 04:18:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Found where I saw this kit. I was looking through some old Marklin Magazines. This kit appears in issue 2/91 on page 19. It is indeed the Pola 619 Lauertalsperre. Dimensions are given as 382 x 215 x 305 mm The substation is listed as Pola 618 Umspannwerk, Eisfeld (310 x 90 x 115 mm), and there is also Pola 617 E-Werk, Eisfeld (185 x 125 x 160 mm)
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mmervine		#15 Posted : 07 May 2009 23:27:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,894 Location: Keene, NH		Here is one listed on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/POLA...WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Jeremy Palmer		#16 Posted : 08 May 2009 00:27:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Hi Pedro and friends, While I think it is a dam good idea to have a dam, it can also be a dam nuisance with the dam permits and dealing with the dam issues the dam bureaucrats will dam cause. See below http://www.getipm.com/personal/dam.htm Jeremy.
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RayF		#17 Posted : 08 May 2009 01:13:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Jeremy Palmer <br />Hi Pedro and friends, While I think it is a dam good idea to have a dam, it can also be a dam nuisance with the dam permits and dealing with the dam issues the dam bureaucrats will dam cause. See below http://www.getipm.com/personal/dam.htm Jeremy. That's good, Dam it!
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mike c		#18 Posted : 08 May 2009 07:22:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,243 Location: Montreal, QC		You could always get a whole bunch of them and have a dam nation Mike C
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Roman		#19 Posted : 25 July 2011 20:46:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2002(UTC) Posts: 871		What is the item number of the Pola power station building? Thank you.
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kbvrod		#20 Posted : 25 July 2011 22:59:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Hi Roman,all, Originally Posted by: Roman What is the item number of the Pola power station building? Thank you. Pola was bought by Faller,they still produce many of their models.They in the new numbering system start with 130XXX. Faller:http://faller.de/App/WebObjects...Transformer-station.html Dr D
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mike c		#21 Posted : 26 July 2011 00:13:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,243 Location: Montreal, QC		Looks like that "Dam" topic has reared it's head again. :) Regards Mike C
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kbvrod		#22 Posted : 26 July 2011 00:22:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Hi all, DAM IT! Dr Dirt
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Roman		#23 Posted : 26 July 2011 00:36:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2002(UTC) Posts: 871		Originally Posted by: kbvrod Hi Roman,all, Originally Posted by: Roman What is the item number of the Pola power station building? Thank you. Pola was bought by Faller,they still produce many of their models.They in the new numbering system start with 130XXX. Faller:http://faller.de/App/WebObjects...Transformer-station.html Dr D I just need the old number. Thank you.
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Bigdaddynz		#24 Posted : 26 July 2011 00:46:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Roman What is the item number of the Pola power station building? Thank you. See my post #12895 above. The substation is listed as Pola 618 Umspannwerk http://cgi.ebay.de/Pola-...p-ungebaut-/150480977132
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Roman		#25 Posted : 26 July 2011 01:02:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2002(UTC) Posts: 871		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: Roman What is the item number of the Pola power station building? Thank you. See my post #12895 above. The substation is listed as Pola 618 Umspannwerk http://cgi.ebay.de/Pola-...p-ungebaut-/150480977132 Thank you. I found it. The E Werks building is 617 so we have it all here. Thanks all.
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