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Offline gachar001  
#1 Posted : 24 April 2009 18:50:26(UTC)
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I posted this problem earlier but didn't get any solutions so I am trying again as I still have the problem. Hope someone can help.

My 37361 Ae 6/6 loco does not have the horn function when used with my CS2. Most other sounds and functions are there. The horn is available when used on the MS. I deleted the loco from the CS2 and added it again with the same results.

My other Ae 6/6 which came with the 29680 starter set (which I assume is functionally identical to the 37361) has all the functions and one extra sound on the CS2 than the 37361.

In the CS2, the Ae 6/6 which came with the 29680 starter set has the horn in the F3 position (4th key from top). On the 37361, this position is blank. Also in the 37361, the F6 position is blank whereas the other loco has a sound function (A short hissing sound).

How can this be fixed? Thanks in advance.
Gautham
Atlanta, GA USA
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Offline dntower85  
#2 Posted : 24 April 2009 20:20:05(UTC)
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Sorry I dont have a CS1 or 2 but this might work, if the AE6/6 from the starter set is not mfx. and if the functions are identical. One way to test this is to temporarily change the address of the 37361 to that of the 29680 and try running it from CS as the 29680. If that works change the address back. and try this.

Delete the 37361 from the cs2, then with no trans on the track change the address of the 29680 Ae 6/6 to that of the 37361.
then rename that Loc
now add the 29680 back to the Cs2 from the data base.

This might not be the best solution but I think it would work.

There should be a way to reassign functions in the CS2 you might look that up in the manual.

DT
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Offline gachar001  
#3 Posted : 24 April 2009 21:25:42(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by dntower85
<br />Sorry I dont have a CS1 or 2 but this might work, if the AE6/6 from the starter set is not mfx. and if the functions are identical. One way to test this is to temporarily change the address of the 37361 to that of the 29680 and try running it from CS as the 29680. If that works change the address back. and try this.

Delete the 37361 from the cs2, then with no trans on the track change the address of the 29680 Ae 6/6 to that of the 37361.
then rename that Loc
now add the 29680 back to the Cs2 from the data base.

This might not be the best solution but I think it would work.

There should be a way to reassign functions in the CS2 you might look that up in the manual.

DT,
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, both locos are MFX. So I don't have an option to play with the addresses.

Gautham
Atlanta, GA USA
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Offline Empirejosef  
#4 Posted : 24 April 2009 22:44:13(UTC)
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i have the same problem from time to time ,
sometimes the breaking sound do not work and some time the horn , some time the steam function ,
sometime even the loco is on the data and it was working 2 days it is stopping no work ,
so now i put some small part of rail and connect this to ms directly and i delete the loco from cs2 and recog again in ms later i put on main rails which are connected to cs2 and let the machine to find mfx option ,
i know this is too much work again and again but this is some solution that i find ,
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Offline davemr  
#5 Posted : 24 April 2009 23:14:04(UTC)
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Make sure you have the correct icon for the horn and that the horn icon has not been set for another sound.
Or change the icon anyway and try that.
If the horn works with the MS then it will work with the CS2 as I presume your other locos are working with the CS2.
davemr
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Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 25 April 2009 01:13:16(UTC)
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I have two locos lost sounds horns with CS2.
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Offline clapcott  
#7 Posted : 25 April 2009 01:46:38(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by gachar001
In the CS2, the Ae 6/6 which came with the 29680 starter set has the horn in the F3 position (4th key from top). On the 37361, this position is blank. Also in the 37361, the F6 position is blank whereas the other loco has a sound function (A short hissing sound).

Presuming the loco does have the functional capabilities, then the first thing to do is to assign an icon (to position F3 and F6 in your case) - any icon will do to test.

The CS2 will not send the command to the decoder if there is no icon.

Like others I have experienced this.
The CS(s) has a library of icons which are assigned icon-codes
The CS2 does not have as comprehensive set of icons that the CS1 does. If an mFX decoder registers a function with an icon-code that is unknown (Or misconfigured) the CS2 will have no picture to show for it. And as i said above - if there is no icon the CS2 ignores the associated button.

Just as a reminder - one of the features of mFX is that the icon-code is stored in the decoder. The downstream effect of this is that controllers must either have an up to date icon database or some way of presenting a default icon.
And before someone replies saying that there is a F icon which can be seen in default situations, I will point out that this icon does have an icon-code of 0. i.e. it is different from the non-0 that the mFX decoder is sending - so no match = no icon
Peter
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Offline gachar001  
#8 Posted : 26 April 2009 18:26:59(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by gachar001
In the CS2, the Ae 6/6 which came with the 29680 starter set has the horn in the F3 position (4th key from top). On the 37361, this position is blank. Also in the 37361, the F6 position is blank whereas the other loco has a sound function (A short hissing sound).

Presuming the loco does have the functional capabilities, then the first thing to do is to assign an icon (to position F3 and F6 in your case) - any icon will do to test.

The CS2 will not send the command to the decoder if there is no icon.

Like others I have experienced this.
The CS(s) has a library of icons which are assigned icon-codes
The CS2 does not have as comprehensive set of icons that the CS1 does. If an mFX decoder registers a function with an icon-code that is unknown (Or misconfigured) the CS2 will have no picture to show for it. And as i said above - if there is no icon the CS2 ignores the associated button.

Just as a reminder - one of the features of mFX is that the icon-code is stored in the decoder. The downstream effect of this is that controllers must either have an up to date icon database or some way of presenting a default icon.
And before someone replies saying that there is a F icon which can be seen in default situations, I will point out that this icon does have an icon-code of 0. i.e. it is different from the non-0 that the mFX decoder is sending - so no match = no icon

Clapcott,
This fixed it. I just had to put the icons in place and things worked fine. Thanks.
Gautham
Atlanta, GA USA
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Offline davemr  
#9 Posted : 26 April 2009 18:37:17(UTC)
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Good.. As I said above but not a comprehensive as Clapcott I had the same trouble but adjusting the icons was all that was needed.

dave
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Offline Goofy  
#10 Posted : 26 April 2009 20:07:37(UTC)
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Horns is the most favorite digitalfunction.
I wonder how many times,that you are pushing on the same button for horn...? biggrin
TUT-TUT-TUT... biggrin
Is there horns at formula 1 cars too...?
TUT-TUT-TUT...
Get the hell out of my way...!!!

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