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Bigdaddynz		#101 Posted : 11 August 2009 06:25:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		OK, panic over.... Found the addon parts and loco manuals inside the top cover, underneath the foam insert.
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john black		#102 Posted : 11 August 2009 13:21:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Don't stop digging, BigDaddy. Going deeper there may be more, perhaps ...
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Bigdaddynz		#103 Posted : 11 August 2009 14:10:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		That there could be Captain John! Left her at work, the box was too big to bring home on the bus. Will take the car and pick it up tomorrow.
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john black		#104 Posted : 11 August 2009 15:39:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Pictures ... [:p]
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Bigdaddynz		#105 Posted : 11 August 2009 15:49:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Sure will! Might even find a spare digital camera at work........ Lots of 'woo woo' going on today at work when I unpacked her!
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john black		#106 Posted : 11 August 2009 16:25:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Ya bet. Guess your colleagues never saw such beauty, before ...
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ulf999		#107 Posted : 11 August 2009 17:39:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,908 Location: Stockholm, Sweden		I can imagine! [:p]
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steventrain		#108 Posted : 11 August 2009 18:46:06(UTC) Retweet
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Bigdaddynz		#109 Posted : 12 August 2009 15:57:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Guys, I have a problem you might be able to help me with. When I opened up the wooden case containing the loco, and lifted the loco with mounting plate out of the box, I noticed that a screw fell out at the same time. The screw is one where the shaft is a larger diameter than the threaded piece - ____ |____| - screw head | | | | - shaft | | || || - thread (I include the drawing as it may help identify where it came from) I've also got a problem with the BB where the cardan shaft from the motor to the front gearbox which drives the front set of driving wheels keeps falling out thereby preventing that set of wheels from providing any drive. There seems to me to be too much play in the front driving truck, and there does not seem to be any pivot point onto the main frame. Should there be a pivot point for that front truck? It seems to me that the pivot point should be between the rear and 2nd last driving wheels. Is this so on your models? That may explain where the screw came from!
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dntower85		#110 Posted : 12 August 2009 18:33:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA		If the shaft is that long most likely there is something that pivots or rotates on the shaft of the screw, like a Bogie.
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Bigdaddynz		#111 Posted : 12 August 2009 18:41:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Sorry Darrin, the formatting messes up the picture - try replying with quote on my post (without posting the reply) to get the correct picture. The shaft is about 3mm long, the thread is 4mm long, and the screw head is 1mm. However, I think you maybe are right, and I'm hoping that someone with a BB can confirm this. Also, that they can confirm where the pivot point is, and which way the screw goes -i.e. from the top or bottom.
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hemau		#112 Posted : 12 August 2009 19:51:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 589 Location: The Netherlands		What a shame delivering the loc with a loose screw. I've been looking at the exploded view of 34990 (there is no exploded view of 37993) and I think it is part nr. 92, a Zylinderschraube (cylinder screw), costing € 0,79 as number 753000. This screw however is to fix the front bogie (the not driven 2 axles). Maybe the loose screw is an extra, I had this once also with a DDR-made camera. Hope you can solve the problem. The exploded view is not to clear about how the driven bogies are attached to the frame. Best regards, Henk.
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john black		#113 Posted : 12 August 2009 21:31:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi David, agree with Henk - acc to your description and M's drawing it must be cylinder screw #92. It mounts upwards and fixes the non-driven, 2-axle lead bogie. There is no other #92 in the loco. Perhaps it just sneaked into the box by chance, then you have a spare ...
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john black		#114 Posted : 12 August 2009 22:00:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />1) I've also got a problem with the BB where the cardan shaft from the motor to the front gearbox which drives the front set of driving wheels keeps falling out thereby preventing that set of wheels from providing any drive. 2) There seems to me to be too much play in the front driving truck, and there does not seem to be any pivot point onto the main frame. Should there be a pivot point for that front truck? It seems to me that the pivot point should be between the rear and 2nd last driving wheels. Is this so on your models? That may explain where the screw came from! ad 1) Do you say by this the front cardan shaft is physically disconnected, and the front driving truck got no propulsion at all ?????? If so, your new BB is a warranty case ... Or do you mean by "falling out" the front driving truck just comes down a rather long way ? This may feel a bit disturbing but is OK. ad 2) That front driving truck got LOTS OF PLAY !!! (lateral & vertical) - way more than the rear one. That's perfectly allright for dealing with R1 curves And there is a pivot point, just above axle #3 (counting from the front end) - but hardly to feel ... The whole front truck assembly is one rattling bag of nails & bones - but that's how it must be
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Bigdaddynz		#115 Posted : 13 August 2009 03:46:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />ad 1) Do you say by this the front cardan shaft is physically disconnected, and the front driving truck got no propulsion at all ?????? If so, your new BB is a warranty case ... Or do you mean by "falling out" the front driving truck just comes down a rather long way ? This may feel a bit disturbing but is OK. The cardan shaft is physically disconnected. I noticed that when putting the BB on my test track, the front driving wheels were not moving. I opened her up, and put the shaft back in. Put the loco back on the layout, the shaft came out again. That's why I wondered whether the spare screw had come out from that area, and whether there was excessive play in the front driving truck, causing the shaft to come out. The front bogie is fixed fine, so screw #92 is firmly in place. Yes you all could be right, a spare screw may have found its way into the box. Although, another thing that aroused my suspicions was that when I took the loco out of the rosewood box, I noticed the front driving truck was not properly fitted into the grooved slot, several wheels were sitting up on the flat piece of the mounting plate. The loco had been screwed down in that position. So either it came from the factory like that (crappy quality control), or someone else has had the loco off its mounting plate, and not put it back on properly. The pivot point seems to be between axles 3 and 4, but the truck is not fixed to the frame in any way. Therefore it is free to move up and down and pivot as it pleases.
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Bigdaddynz		#116 Posted : 13 August 2009 08:39:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		I must say I feel a bit better about life in general and Big Boys in particular. I refitted the cardan shaft and then ran the Big Boy around a C track oval with R2 curves and a few straights. It ran 20 or so laps without any trouble, so I'm much happier!
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john black		#117 Posted : 13 August 2009 13:54:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Very good, BigDaddy - and congratulations !!! So you managed to fix it by yourself [:p] One last question. When you unpacked the loco, was the wooden box still sealed tightly in plastic (proof of factory original packing)
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Bigdaddynz		#118 Posted : 13 August 2009 14:30:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		John, yes the box was still sealed in plastic. The BB is happily lapping around me, pulling some Langer Heinrich ore cars, as I type this. I'm wondering whether running it on the M track layout with its R1 curves was too much. I have seen BB's on C track R1 curves without problems.
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john black		#119 Posted : 13 August 2009 15:10:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />when I took the loco out of the rosewood box, I noticed the front driving truck was not properly fitted into the grooved slot, several wheels were sitting up on the flat piece of the mounting plate. The loco had been screwed down in that position. So either it came from the factory like that (crappy quality control) So you've been right with your very first suspicion ... With the plastic skin sealed tightly - original ex manufacturer - M did a lousy job [xx(] at packing !!! Not what one would ask for when buying an €800 top-of-the-line locomotive. Good morning, Mr Pluta ... But you fixed all this by yourself - and that is what's counting in the end [:p]
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john black		#120 Posted : 13 August 2009 15:24:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />I'm wondering whether running it on the M track layout with its R1 curves was too much. I have seen BB's on C track R1 curves without problems. David, I really wouldn't run a BB on stock M-track that often - she was never built for that. (its sloppy geometry plus the countless sharp edges would damage her in the long run) BUT if you have "tuned-up" your M-track accordingly (you know what I mean) I see no problems [^] C-track giving her no trouble, at all. For example, on day one I did race (for testing purposes) my #37991 full throttle thru my C-track R1 turnout alley - without a single hitch, repeatedly Have fun, my friend
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DamonKelly		#121 Posted : 13 August 2009 15:34:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/03/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,423 Location: Brisbane, QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Although, another thing that aroused my suspicions was that when I took the loco out of the rosewood box, I noticed the front driving truck was not properly fitted into the grooved slot, several wheels were sitting up on the flat piece of the mounting plate. The loco had been screwed down in that position. So either it came from the factory like that (crappy quality control), or someone else has had the loco off its mounting plate, and not put it back on properly. Mine (from LokShop) arrived the same -- in fact the wooden plate was damaged. Not worth returning it, but irritating nevertheless.
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Bigdaddynz		#122 Posted : 14 August 2009 00:49:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		John, all of my M track is in very good condition, I have replaced item that wern't with newer items obtained through our club. But, I agree, Big Boy seems more happy on C track. Oh well, I'll just have to take BB to my mates, he has an all C track layout and a BB, so I know she will run OK there. Damon, I agree. I got a bit of dark brown boot polish on a rag, and polished the marked pieces up. Although they haven't entirely disappeared, they do look better than what they did. Thanks guys for your help and comments, much appreciated.
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gachar001		#123 Posted : 14 August 2009 17:54:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />John, all of my M track is in very good condition, I have replaced item that wern't with newer items obtained through our club. But, I agree, Big Boy seems more happy on C track. Oh well, I'll just have to take BB to my mates, he has an all C track layout and a BB, so I know she will run OK there. Damon, I agree. I got a bit of dark brown boot polish on a rag, and polished the marked pieces up. Although they haven't entirely disappeared, they do look better than what they did. Thanks guys for your help and comments, much appreciated. There are marker like pens available specifically to touch up wood. They are available in various shades of wood color. After touching up, the wood looks like new.
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Bigdaddynz		#124 Posted : 15 August 2009 16:05:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Just been having a play with BB on my layout. I'm certainly going to have to reposition some of my catenary masts! But I did discover that it will run through curved turnouts forwards (but not backwards) and it will run through one of my tunnels. I need to check catenary masts on the bridge area, then I can try there and the other tunnel as well. And I need to do some minor repairs on one of the roofs of my station platform, which has a slight dip and catches the top of the BB as it goes past. But that will be fairly easy to fix.
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Bigdaddynz		#125 Posted : 15 August 2009 16:06:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Gautham, has your BB arrived yet?
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gachar001		#126 Posted : 17 August 2009 23:01:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Gautham, has your BB arrived yet? Nope. No such luck. Packages from outside US take nearly a month to get here. Looks like it takes for ever for the packages to get Xrayed, checked etc. Thanks for checking.
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Train kept a rollin		#127 Posted : 18 August 2009 10:22:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 27 Location: George,		I am glad to report that my Big Boy arrived yesterday. Yes, the box is quite big, well packed in another box with styrofoam peanuts by the folks at ETS. The wooden box was plastic-wrapped as it should be, and no screws fell out as I opened and (very carefully, with the assistance of my wife) removed the Big Boy from the wooden base. I do have a few questions, however. 1. I am unable to access the "squeeling brakes"-function on my Mobile Station (function 6, I think). Am I doing something wrong? 2. How does one open the driver's compartment to put the figurines in? According to the documentation one has to lift the roof, but I can't manage to get that done. Don't really want to use force on this one! 3. When driving forward at slow speed, the BB really seems to struggle around corners. When the wheels turn, there seems to be some kind of strain until eventually there is a very audible click. When driving very slowly forward (creeping, I would say) there seems to be a tendency to derail (not so at medium speed, however - I've been reluctant to race it round the bends thus far). In reverse it seems to be doing just fine - no strain, no clicking round corners. I have also noticed when fiddling with the engineer's compartment that there is a slight "see-saw" effect: the engine/cylinder lifts slightly whilst the wheels remain firmly on the tracks. Is it supposed to be like this? Or do I need to fasten/adjust something somewhere? Apologies if I'm asking stupid questions, and please, I'm not very technically-minded and living 450 kms from the nearest dealer so bear that in mind. Any help would be sorely appreciated! That said, the BB is a magnificent creation that has enormous presence. It is a simply beautiful thing to behold.
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Bigdaddynz		#128 Posted : 18 August 2009 10:32:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Squealing brakes is there somewhere, I think it is on by default. It didn't seem to be working on my BB initially, but I noticed that last night it was. Remember, that normally, turning the squealing brake function on on the CS actually turns squealing brakes off. Not sure about the roof, but to take the loco body off requires the removal of 2 screws. The first is underneath a small plastic cap right in front of the cab, the other is under the cap of the large dome on top of the loco body. You need to remove both with your fingernail to get at the screws. I have noticed some clicking when the BB is running on M track, but I haven't noticed this with C track. I'm not sure as yet what it is. The BB was running at a slow/medium speed at the time. BTW, I got the BB to go around 99% of my layout, there is one area coming off the bridge where the BB goes light on the front bogie and derails - it is on a curve that starts to descend straight after the bridge. Not too sure how (or if) I'm going to fix it, major surgery may be required. I know it won't go around in the other direction, as there is one bit that has scenery too close and the BB will hit it. That may have to wait for when (and if) I do any layout expansion, as that area will get modified if I do go ahead with it.
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john black		#129 Posted : 18 August 2009 12:08:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Train kept a rollin <br />1. I am unable to access the "squeeling brakes" on my MS. Am I doing something wrong? 3. When driving forward at slow speed, the BB really seems to struggle around corners. When the wheels turn there seems to be some kind of strain until eventually there is a very audible click. When driving very slowly forward there seems to be a tendency to derail. Hi Wilhelm - you do nothing wrong, of course. Talk about M's newfandangled ideas ... [xx(] ad 1) With the MS not all available functions are shown, ever. Just press the empties ad 3) This is M's plastic cardan drive. Needs some grease at the knuckles plus break-in time Have fun with your new beauty, John
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Bigdaddynz		#130 Posted : 18 August 2009 12:25:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Plenty of grease in mine John, I got a good look at it all, right up close and personal!
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john black		#131 Posted : 18 August 2009 12:30:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Of course you did, BigDaddy
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Train kept a rollin		#132 Posted : 18 August 2009 18:40:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 27 Location: George,		Many thanks for your advices, Big Daddy & John Black. 1. Re the "squealing brakes"-function: On my MS at the relevant function button no icon is shown (right set of buttons, second from the top) and nothing happens when I press this button. I have also tried holding it in when bringing the BB to a standstill but without any result. 2. Re the opening of the engineer's compartment to put the figurines in: I will have a look at home tonight and see if I can find any screws. According to the diagram in the documentation just the top of the compartment is supposed to lift up, one side up, like the lid of a box and not the top section of the BB in its entirety. 3. Re the "clicking" noises: My setup is C-track based. Where are the knuckles that one must grease? And what do you grease them with? Or should I just drive the BB around a while and see if the problem sorts itself out? 4. One last question: the marker lights and smoking unit run on the same function. Once I have put in smoking units, do I need to have oil in if I want to have the marker lights on (Don't want to damage the smoking contact/unit)? Sorry if this is a stupid question!
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john black		#133 Posted : 18 August 2009 18:54:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Wilhelm, - brake squealing occurs only when hitting those brakes hard = fast reduction of loco speed - with "knuckles" I meant the loco's cardan shaft joints (transmission). Any acid-free grease will do [^] (when in doubt about disassembling the loco some running on the layout might also do, perhaps ...) John
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Bigdaddynz		#134 Posted : 19 August 2009 00:41:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Wilhem, you could use something like the grease that Trix sell. Labelle also produce a suitable grease. However, there should be already plenty of grease in the joints, there was when I looked at my BB. As for the smoke units, yes it would be best to have smoke fluid in the smoke units. One thing I have found is that the contacts on the bottom of the smoke unit may not be long enough to make contact with the copper contacts. This is so with mine, especially the front smoke unit. I may have to solder a small piece of wire on the bottom contact of the smoke unit for it to work. Currently only my 2nd smoke unit is working, the front one isn't. This is after I tried to bend the copper contacts inside the loco upwards, but they don't seem to want to hold their shape. Hence the need to lengthen the contact on the bottom of the smoke unit.
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john black		#135 Posted : 19 August 2009 01:13:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		David - if this goes on M oughta be in debt heavily for your constant improvements ... [:p]
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Train kept a rollin		#136 Posted : 19 August 2009 10:06:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 27 Location: George,		Some further feedback: 1. Big Daddy & John, you were right. I reset the functions on the BB, got it up to speed, pulled it down to a stop and voila, the brakes were squealing. 2. Last night I tried (very gently) to lift the roof of the engineer's compartment and it came off without problem. My figurines are installed in the cab and looking very nice! 3. The clicking when turning (only in forward, not reverse mode) is still there, but it would appear slightly less strained. I'm going to first try & see if the problem sorts itself out over the next few days. 4. Am going to try & install the smoke units tonight. The kids are very excited. What's left to say? Ain't she a beauty!
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sudibarba		#137 Posted : 19 August 2009 17:37:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Guys, I have a problem you might be able to help me with. When I opened up the wooden case containing the loco, and lifted the loco with mounting plate out of the box, I noticed that a screw fell out at the same time. The screw is one where the shaft is a larger diameter than the threaded piece - ____ |____| - screw head | | | | - shaft | | || || - thread (I include the drawing as it may help identify where it came from) I've also got a problem with the BB where the cardan shaft from the motor to the front gearbox which drives the front set of driving wheels keeps falling out thereby preventing that set of wheels from providing any drive. There seems to me to be too much play in the front driving truck, and there does not seem to be any pivot point onto the main frame. Should there be a pivot point for that front truck? It seems to me that the pivot point should be between the rear and 2nd last driving wheels. Is this so on your models? That may explain where the screw came from! Was this one of the three screws that held the loco to the board. When I got my earlier version, one of mine had vibrated out during shipping I presume. Scott at Helmut's Hobbies reommends putting a little of the removable "Lok Tight" on the threads if you remount the unit to ship for repair. Eric
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john black		#138 Posted : 19 August 2009 22:51:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Train kept a rollin <br />Big Daddy & John ... I reset the functions on the BB, got it up to speed, pulled it down to a stop and voila, the brakes were squealing. What's left to say? Ain't she a beauty! Great feedback, Wilhelm [:p]
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Bigdaddynz		#139 Posted : 20 August 2009 00:23:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Eric, no all three mounting screws were there. So, I still don't know what the spare screw was for!
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john black		#140 Posted : 20 August 2009 00:29:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Again - screw #92 is no mounting screw but the cylinder screw holding the front bogie Now you got a spare ...
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Bigdaddynz		#141 Posted : 20 August 2009 02:02:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Well I guess that is the only possibility John. It doesn't seem to belong anywhere else. I guess the NYC guy does know a thing or two about Marklin!
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john black		#142 Posted : 20 August 2009 02:34:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Ya know, BigDaddy - you and me just try to keep up (a bit). But of course we'll never be a "Super-Insider"
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sudibarba		#143 Posted : 20 August 2009 03:01:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Eric, no all three mounting screws were there. So, I still don't know what the spare screw was for! Just thought I would point out the issue. It evidently has happened enough for Scott to include the recommendation as well as detailed packing instructions on his web site.Good for possible future reference. Anyway, you will love your Big Boy. Mine runs fine through all my M track turnouts as well as the M tRack itself. Of course, it runs fine through my long C track runs. I'd love to have several, but this whole loco thing is getting a little out of hand - funny, I'm not really concerned. Eric
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Bigdaddynz		#144 Posted : 20 August 2009 03:09:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Thanks for the advice Eric, I shall watch out for that. I did manage to get the BB to negotiate the exit from my layout's bridges last night, albeit at slow speed, and after some modifications to the track bed. I also got it to go through a turnout it was previously derailing at, that turned out to be a track mounting screw just prior to the turnout, that when the BB went over it caused a track short, and also upset the BB enough that it derailed. Remounting the screw and screwing it down a bit more fixed the problem. Now all I have to do is find out why, all of a sudden, it gets stuck inside a tunnel! BTW, I agree, a 37991 would go well with 37993.
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gachar001		#145 Posted : 20 August 2009 18:25:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Now all I have to do is find out why, all of a sudden, it gets stuck inside a tunnel! Simple. Big Boy, small tunnel .
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john black		#146 Posted : 20 August 2009 22:10:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by gachar001 <br />Simple. Big Boy, small tunnel
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Bigdaddynz		#147 Posted : 21 August 2009 00:23:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Big Boy, bigger tunnel now..............
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steventrain		#148 Posted : 21 August 2009 00:27:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DamonKelly <br /> Mine (from LokShop) arrived the same -- in fact the wooden plate was damaged. Not worth returning it, but irritating nevertheless. Why not email/contact Lokshop to send replacement wooden plate?
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john black		#149 Posted : 21 August 2009 00:28:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Big Boy, bigger tunnel now.............. [^][^][^] ... electric saw
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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klarinettmeister		#150 Posted : 21 August 2009 01:56:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Thanks for the advice Eric, I shall watch out for that. I did manage to get the BB to negotiate the exit from my layout's bridges last night, albeit at slow speed, and after some modifications to the track bed. I also got it to go through a turnout it was previously derailing at, that turned out to be a track mounting screw just prior to the turnout, that when the BB went over it caused a track short, and also upset the BB enough that it derailed. Remounting the screw and screwing it down a bit more fixed the problem. Now all I have to do is find out why, all of a sudden, it gets stuck inside a tunnel! BTW, I agree, a 37991 would go well with 37993. At least you´ve got somewhere to run your trains. I have all my trains in their boxes. I want to move to a bigger apartment and build a big railway. Yes. Both 37990 and 37991 goes well with 37993. Though as I mentioned, it looks a little strange mixing warm-white and white LEDs.
		37624 F7, my first review My layout in construction. /David
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