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Offline aos  
#1 Posted : 28 December 2008 22:16:13(UTC)
aos

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Location: Livingston, Scotland
I need to purchase some of the above tracks. I have some 5104 and 5105' and they work with no problems. What is the difference between these and 5146 and 5147 track sections apart from the obvious size. If they perform the same function, which would you choose as a personal preference. Thanks.
Offline amartinezv  
#2 Posted : 29 December 2008 00:50:21(UTC)
amartinezv

Spain   
Joined: 25/08/2004(UTC)
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Location: Madrid,
Hello,
You can do the track by yourself, I do mine, as you can see at:
http://www.terra.es/pers...os/Trucos2.htm#deteccion
Please use a translator, bus it is very easy
Another marklinist Dale Schultz also does something very similar

Luck and greetings
Antonio Martínez
marklin, IB, era 3, Train controller
www.raildigital.es/davidruso
Offline aos  
#3 Posted : 29 December 2008 00:59:22(UTC)
aos

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Location: Livingston, Scotland
Amartinezv - Many thanks. My daughter is learning Spanish, so I shall ask her to interpret for me. I have taken a quick looksee and it does look easy.
Offline Minibahn  
#4 Posted : 29 December 2008 01:33:31(UTC)
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Hello,

with 5104 and 5105 every wheel gives the function, with 5146 and 5147 every pickup gives the function and you have different functions for each direction.
Regards Charles
Offline aos  
#5 Posted : 13 June 2009 18:02:58(UTC)
aos

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Location: Livingston, Scotland
I have managed to purchase a number of 5104 and 5105 metal track contact sections. I have been testing that they are all working ok.

Does anybody know the maximum number of electrical items, say solenoid operated points and signals which can be operated from one contract track?

I don't want to cause an electrical overload and thus craete a fire hazard.

Is it documented within the Marklin website at all? Thanks in advance.

Anybody any thoughts?
Offline evillarreal  
#6 Posted : 25 February 2020 02:32:27(UTC)
evillarreal

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Originally Posted by: amartinezv Go to Quoted Post
Hello,
You can do the track by yourself, I do mine, as you can see at:
http://www.terra.es/pers...os/Trucos2.htm#deteccion
Please use a translator, bus it is very easy
Another marklinist Dale Schultz also does something very similar

Luck and greetings


Hola Antonio,
El enlace lleva a otro sitio, tendrías uno actualizado?
Muchas gracias y saludos desde Bolivia
Enrique
Offline cookee_nz  
#7 Posted : 25 February 2020 10:08:23(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Posts: 3,626
Location: Paremata, Wellington
Originally Posted by: aos Go to Quoted Post
I have managed to purchase a number of 5104 and 5105 metal track contact sections. I have been testing that they are all working ok.

Does anybody know the maximum number of electrical items, say solenoid operated points and signals which can be operated from one contract track?

I don't want to cause an electrical overload and thus craete a fire hazard.

Is it documented within the Marklin website at all? Thanks in advance.

Anybody any thoughts?


Just be careful with trying to drive too many solenoids from a single contact. Those circuit tracks are finicky enough without adding to the problems.

In theory, you can drive as many solenoids as your trafo will allow. You will need to know the current-draw of the device and then ensure you have sufficient (VA) available.

But the bigger concern is the more current you draw, the bigger will be the arcing when the contact breaks and this over time will burn the contacts leading to unreliability. As I said, those contacts are touchy, and not easy to clean without distorting them - they are a bear to adjust.

They are really intended to operate just one, maybe two solenoids. If you want to operate more, say for automatic route-setting in a cascading storage yard then you are better off using the circuit track to power a more robust universal relay and have that relay power the others. Or do it with electronics BigGrin
Cookee
Wellington
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Jay
Offline amartinezv  
#8 Posted : 25 February 2020 10:25:32(UTC)
amartinezv

Spain   
Joined: 25/08/2004(UTC)
Posts: 297
Location: Madrid,
Originally Posted by: evillarreal Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: amartinezv Go to Quoted Post
Hello,
You can do the track by yourself, I do mine, as you can see at:
http://www.terra.es/pers...os/Trucos2.htm#deteccion
Please use a translator, bus it is very easy
Another marklinist Dale Schultz also does something very similar

Luck and greetings


Hola Antonio,
El enlace lleva a otro sitio, tendrías uno actualizado?
Muchas gracias y saludos desde Bolivia
Enrique


Hola,
Mi pagina deje de actualizarla ya hace bastante tiempo, pero todavia está online

http://www.raildigital.e...os/Trucos2.htm#deteccion

Ultimamente he empleado otro método, que consiste basicamente en aislar un rail del cuerpo de la via, es algo laborioso pero funciona, pero no lo he documentado.
Saludos
Hello,
I stopped updating my page a long time ago, but it's still online

http://www.raildigital.e...os/Trucos2.htm#deteccion

Lately I have employed another method, which basically consists of isolating a rail from the body of the track, it is a laborious thing but it works, but I have not documented it.
Greetings
Antonio Martínez
marklin, IB, era 3, Train controller
www.raildigital.es/davidruso
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