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Oscar		#1 Posted : 21 December 2008 18:52:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		This is awesome. Back in the '60s, Märklin would sell complete lay-outs to retailers, so they could set up the lay-out in the shopwindow and attrack buyers. The son of such a shop owner inherited the lay-out. He kept it hanging from the ceiling in his kitchen for many years. Then it ended up in a warehouse. In the end, he offered the lay-out to the Dutch model railroad museum. They restored it in perfect condition and now it is a top attraction (I'm heading there to see the lay-out in the coming weeks). Here's a YouTube clip from the Dutch TV news about this lay-out. A lay-out like this is exactly why I am into old Märklin. Edited by moderator 02 December 2011 21:40:17(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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mmervine		#2 Posted : 21 December 2008 19:08:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		Nice to see this layout 'back in action'! Where is the museum?
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Oscar		#3 Posted : 21 December 2008 20:35:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Quote: quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />Nice to see this layout 'back in action'! Where is the museum? <font face="Verdana][size=2]In the town of Sneek, Holland. It's only fitting that it is located in the old station building there. It's still in use as such.</font id="Verdana]
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steventrain		#4 Posted : 21 December 2008 20:40:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Nice to see old layout still working. Thnaks for sharing the pictures.
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seatrains		#5 Posted : 21 December 2008 20:50:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 669 Location: Shoreline, WA		Oscar, nice!! A great layout with a tm 800 and some 327 series coaches always makes my day.
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PierreGILLARD		#6 Posted : 21 December 2008 21:04:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Great to see that a layout such as those that I have seen at hobbyshops during my childhood has been saved. It is still one of my dreams to build one day a M-Track layout like the one wished about 35 years ago now. Pierre.
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Weltenbummler		#7 Posted : 21 December 2008 21:28:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		Nice to see another layout being saved from destruction. That's what Peter Berg and his colleagues are doing in Gaggenau in Germany. Every year they present these layouts at an exhibition in the Unimog Museum Gaggenau. Here are some layouts from a smaller exhibiton at the Gaggenau Jahn Sporthalle from November this year. I can tell you that these events are worth going there. I'll be there second weekend in February 2009. But here now some pics from Peter's website. More pics can be found at www.mist1.de Bildarchiv
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WelshMatt		#8 Posted : 21 December 2008 22:12:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,345 Location: ,		Good to see a surviving layout - I read an article recently about restoring a similar Hornby Dublo layout that appeared to have been part of a shop counter. It had a glass top and front to protect the models from wandering fingers.
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Bigdaddynz		#9 Posted : 21 December 2008 22:16:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		We have an M track layout that was donated to our Marklin Club, after being used for many years as a shop display layout. I remember looking at 'Kleinbahn' as a kid, little did I know I would get to work on it in later years!
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Zora la rousse		#10 Posted : 22 December 2008 07:16:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/10/2005(UTC) Posts: 856 Location: ,		Quote: quote:Originally posted by Oscar <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />Nice to see this layout 'back in action'! Where is the museum? <font face="Verdana][size=2]In the town of Sneek, Holland. It's only fitting that it is located in the old station building there. It's still in use as such.</font id="Verdana] And the website: http://www.modelspoormuseum.nl/
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Oscar		#11 Posted : 22 December 2008 10:51:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Quote: quote:Originally posted by Thomas Duengefeld <br />Nice to see another layout being saved from destruction. That's what Peter Berg and his colleagues are doing in Gaggenau in Germany. Every year they present these layouts at an exhibition in the Unimog Museum Gaggenau. Here are some layouts from a smaller exhibiton at the Gaggenau Jahn Sporthalle from November this year. I can tell you that these events are worth going there. I'll be there second weekend in February 2009. But here now some pics from Peter's website. More pics can be found at www.mist1.de Bildarchiv <font face="Verdana][size=2]Wow! Fantastic! I love that stuff! I'm going to see if I can find some larger versions of those photos that really show the details!</font id="Verdana]
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steventrain		#12 Posted : 22 December 2008 18:00:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Nice pictures, Thomas. It could be childhood dream.[8)]
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Oscar		#13 Posted : 24 December 2008 20:23:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		I've visited the museum today and here are some photos from the Fabriksanlage (I've had to make photos through glass): Edited by moderator 02 December 2011 21:41:52(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Oscar		#14 Posted : 24 December 2008 20:26:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		And some more: The rails used in this lay-out are quite worn - it has obviously seen extensive use over the years, but everything still works perfect. It was great to see this piece of Märklin history in full operation! Edited by moderator 02 December 2011 21:42:23(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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PierreGILLARD		#15 Posted : 24 December 2008 23:35:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Thanks for the pictures and report, Oscar. Pierre.
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foumaro		#16 Posted : 25 December 2008 05:40:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Thank you for the nice photos Oscar.
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shaygetz		#17 Posted : 25 December 2008 07:29:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/12/2006(UTC) Posts: 348 Location: , Florida		That wiring is a work of art itself.
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M Neilson		#18 Posted : 25 December 2008 10:35:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/12/2007(UTC) Posts: 43 Location: Gore, Southland		Seeing these layouts makes me think about the dealer layout that a local department store had on display in the early to mid 1980s, I have always wondered what happened to it (quite likey still in storage I hope). It was two levels full analogue and controlled by signals. I should one day ask the lady out the checkout about it.
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Macfire		#19 Posted : 25 December 2008 11:17:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by shaygetz <br />That wiring is a work of art itself. Oh yes. [:p] [:p] Fantastic pics and links. Thanks for that team. Reminds me how we got into M* And Oscar, a REAL railway crossing [:p] [:p]
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Bigdaddynz		#20 Posted : 25 December 2008 12:19:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by shaygetz <br />That wiring is a work of art itself. I think the same guy who wired this layout must have wired our club's Kleinbahn layout, the wiring looks very similar!
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davpadlee		#21 Posted : 28 December 2008 04:40:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 76 Location: Vallejo, CA		Hey Guys, Sorry for being away, just busy.[8] At any rate this is a nice layout. Happy Holidays Dave
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xxup		#22 Posted : 28 December 2008 10:48:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,473 Location: Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by shaygetz <br />That wiring is a work of art itself. I think the same guy who wired this layout must have wired our club's Kleinbahn layout, the wiring looks very similar! That wiring is so neat it is disturbing.. I am not sure that I would like to be alone with someone who wires layouts like that... [:0][:0][:0]
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xxup		#23 Posted : 28 December 2008 10:51:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,473 Location: Australia		I love these layouts.. I ordered the old M-track layout book before Christmas with the intention of making a small upstairs layout for something that I suspect might happen tomorrow... Anyway the guy bolted to Florida for Christmas and it does not look like I will see it until the US spring - if ever.. Oh well easy come - easy go..
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steventrain		#24 Posted : 28 December 2008 12:05:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks for posting the pictures, Oscar. How about the 'M-track Club' ?
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steventrain		#25 Posted : 28 December 2008 12:25:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Another history marklin layout, It is quite big at ETS. http://www.modelleisenba...erAnlageWaiblingen_e.php
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PierreGILLARD		#26 Posted : 28 December 2008 13:23:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Thanks for the link, Steven. Pierre.
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Oscar		#27 Posted : 28 December 2008 15:27:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Quote: quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />Another history marklin layout, It is quite big at ETS. http://www.modelleisenba...erAnlageWaiblingen_e.php <font face="Verdana][size=2]That's incredible. Unbelievable. I need to go visit that!</font id="Verdana]
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mmervine		#28 Posted : 28 December 2008 16:18:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		very nice, indeed!
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seatrains		#29 Posted : 28 December 2008 20:33:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 669 Location: Shoreline, WA		Oscar, thanks again. Adrian, Pierre, what was out, is in again. There are a lot of people making tischbahns, in the style of those old Maerklin layouts, so that they can run their vintage equipment. I have a couple of the old layout books and I would like to make a small vintage layout.
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Weltenbummler		#30 Posted : 03 January 2009 19:18:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 459 Location: Berlin (D)		Quote: quote:Originally posted by Oscar... <font face="Verdana][size=2]Wow! Fantastic! I love that stuff! I'm going to see if I can find some larger versions of those photos that really show the details!</font id="Verdana]... Hi Oscar, I'll try to make some more detailed ones during the next exhibition on 7./8. February.
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cookee_nz		#31 Posted : 02 December 2011 21:27:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,955 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: M Neilson Seeing these layouts makes me think about the dealer layout that a local department store had on display in the early to mid 1980s, I have always wondered what happened to it (quite likey still in storage I hope). It was two levels full analogue and controlled by signals. I should one day ask the lady out the checkout about it. This is an old thread I've only just come across - Malcolm, did you ever find out about this layout one you recalled down your way?? Cheers Cookee
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cookee_nz		#32 Posted : 02 December 2011 21:37:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,955 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: Oscar This is awesome. Back in the '60s, Märklin would sell complete lay-outs to retailers, so they could set up the lay-out in the shopwindow and attrack buyers. The son of such a shop owner inherited the lay-out. He kept it hanging from the ceiling in his kitchen for many years. Then it ended up in a warehouse. In the end, he offered the lay-out to the Dutch model railroad museum. They restored it in perfect condition and now it is a top attraction (I'm heading there to see the lay-out in the coming weeks). Here's a YouTube clip from the Dutch TV news about this lay-out. A lay-out like this is exactly why I am into old Märklin. Hi Oscar, I know this is an old thread, I've only just come across it but the Youtube link does not work anymore, perhaps the file has been removed but do you recall the name of the user or channel it was on, I'd love to see it. Regards Cookee Melbourne
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cookee_nz		#33 Posted : 02 December 2011 21:41:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,955 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: steventrain Another history marklin layout, It is quite big at ETS. http://www.modelleisenba...erAnlageWaiblingen_e.php Hi Steven, This one does not work either - anyone have a working link for this one? Thanks Cookee
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Bigdaddynz		#34 Posted : 02 December 2011 21:44:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Hi Oscar, I know this is an old thread, I've only just come across it but the Youtube link does not work anymore, perhaps the file has been removed but do you recall the name of the user or channel it was on, I'd love to see it. Try it again Cookee, it didn't work for me the first time, but did the second.
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cookee_nz		#35 Posted : 03 December 2011 00:19:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,955 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Hi Oscar, I know this is an old thread, I've only just come across it but the Youtube link does not work anymore, perhaps the file has been removed but do you recall the name of the user or channel it was on, I'd love to see it. Try it again Cookee, it didn't work for me the first time, but did the second. Excellent - but weird, first time the link was dead, when I posted my reply, it came 'alive' but would not play, just tried it again and away it went. I suspect the link in the first message went funny because it was such an old thread and may have been truncated until reactivated. No matter, seen it now, all good. Thanks Dave
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GG1 Fan		#36 Posted : 03 December 2011 05:59:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/11/2010(UTC) Posts: 725 Location: Stamford, CT USA		Greetings, Does anybody have the track plans for the layout pictured in the first picture posted by Welten? I ask because that is exactly the type of layout that I want to build this holiday season for my son! I have most of the layout books, so just book title and page would help me out greatly. All that is really missing is a mountain tunnel, but I can just drop that in anywhere it fits. My problem is that I have some many 'ideas' and wants that the structure of a formal layout will help me focus and build instead of 'imagine' and get frustrated. Regards, Paul
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cookee_nz		#37 Posted : 03 December 2011 08:11:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 3,955 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: GG1 Fan Greetings, Does anybody have the track plans for the layout pictured in the first picture posted by Welten? I ask because that is exactly the type of layout that I want to build this holiday season for my son! I have most of the layout books, so just book title and page would help me out greatly. All that is really missing is a mountain tunnel, but I can just drop that in anywhere it fits. My problem is that I have some many 'ideas' and wants that the structure of a formal layout will help me focus and build instead of 'imagine' and get frustrated. Regards, Paul Hi Paul, This is what you're after - as a display layout it was sold as item 0401. It is also in the track-plan book 0351 from 1972 Pages 34 & 35 - I've pasted a copy of the layout from the display layout catalogue, plus a photo from the track-plan book and the actual track plan itself. It would give you some interesting running for sure. You'll have a bit of a search to find all the metal bridge sections, (in good condition) but some other list members may be able to help. If you are doing it in M track then it's all laid out for you, otherwise you'll need to do some planning if planning on using C or K. With my interest in factory layouts I've now also found a new interest in the track plan books because many of the display layouts are in the books - I have only one but there's been quite a few variations over the years so I'm going to have to start trying to fill the gaps I don;t have - if anyone has any spares, I'd be interested (M & K track). Hope this helps. Cookee Melbourne cookee_nz attached the following image(s):
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Ian555		#38 Posted : 03 December 2011 09:34:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,240 Location: Scotland		Hi all, Great looking layout. Ian.
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intruder		#39 Posted : 04 December 2011 02:24:58(UTC) Retweet
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Jeremy Palmer		#40 Posted : 08 October 2013 22:50:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Old Track plans resources/links http://www.lctm.info/Biblioteca/Catalogos/Marklin/ http://www.lctm.info/Biblioteca/Libros/ Enjoy Jeremy.
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