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I_love_Marklin_37538		#1 Posted : 03 January 2010 10:07:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		My 37193 is still yet to arrive Is it possible to put a Smoke Unit in the 37193?
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Bigdaddynz		#2 Posted : 03 January 2010 10:13:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		What's a 37193? Always say what it is, Alex, we don't all carry databases of Marklin product numbers around in our heads! Is this your Br17? You should be able to download the manual for it, and that should tell you whether you can put a smoke unit in it. http://www.maerklin.de/d...?page=1&perpage=1137
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Bigdaddynz		#3 Posted : 03 January 2010 10:17:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		The manual makes no mention of a smoke unit, neither is there a function for it in the function list. Looks like there is no smoke option for this locomotive.
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#4 Posted : 03 January 2010 10:17:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />What's a 37193? Always say what it is, Alex, we don't all carry databases of Marklin product numbers around in our heads! Is this your Br17? You should be able to download the manual for it, and that should tell you whether you can put a smoke unit in it. http://www.maerklin.de/d...?page=1&perpage=1137 I am already sitting on my chair waiting for the BR17 to come [V][V][^]
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mvd71		#5 Posted : 03 January 2010 10:42:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,		Well stop sitting around, order some track, and start building a module to go with Big D's.
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#6 Posted : 03 January 2010 11:37:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mvd71 <br />Well stop sitting around, order some track, and start building a module to go with Big D's. Work on halt at the moment,my mum is objecting me turning the garage into a model railway zone and I am suffering severe hayfever problem down in the Hutt
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steventrain		#7 Posted : 03 January 2010 11:59:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		See page 4 of 5/2009 Insider club news magazine (English) for detail. The Function table said smoke unit was in the 2009 new item brochure but not in the 2009/2010 catalogue. There is a error in the 2009 new item brochure. 2009 new item brochure. 2009/2010 Catalogue.
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Bigdaddynz		#8 Posted : 03 January 2010 12:24:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		It is a bit daft for a one time series loco not to have the ability to fit a smoke unit. I checked the manual for my 26549 Br38 (which looks similar to the Br17), and that can have smoke!
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TimR		#9 Posted : 03 January 2010 13:02:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		From Dermodellbahnchecker: "Info: Der Einbau eines Rauchgenerators ist nicht möglich, da hier eine Verschraubung des Gehäuses erfolgt. Die Lok ist nicht mit einer führender Kupplungsmöglichkeit (auch keine Möglichkeit einer Nachrüstung) ausgeführt, so dass Doppeltraktionen mit der Lok an 2. Stelle nicht möglich sind." As far as I know, the BR 18.1 also can't operate a smoke unit.. Though I'm moving more and more towards no sound, plainer models these days, one can't help but feeling a bit shortchanged compared to the similarly priced BR 01.
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river6109		#10 Posted : 03 January 2010 14:34:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,874 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Well you can't put a smokeunit into it, because ther is a screw instead. You can't have a double traction because there is no coupling facility, maybe the next special feature is, you can't add a sound module because, well they think of something. regards., John
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H0		#11 Posted : 03 January 2010 14:40:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,440 Location: DE-NW		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />It is a bit daft for a one time series loco not to have the ability to fit a smoke unit. Would it make a difference if it wasn't a one-time series? The mould was originally used for 2681/2881 in 1995 - and it had no smoke unit then and no smoke unit ever since.
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river6109		#12 Posted : 03 January 2010 15:26:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,874 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		There is your answer, David, why in the world would you think that in 14 years there would be a change of heart ? or even the slightest deviation from a non smoking unit to a smoking unit. What were you thinking ?
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Bigdaddynz		#13 Posted : 03 January 2010 17:11:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by H0 <br />Would it make a difference if it wasn't a one-time series? Maybe! It just seemed to me (without knowing the background), and probably to Alex as well, a bit disappointing not to be able to have smoke in what was intended by Marklin to be a special model. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by H0 <br />The mould was originally used for 2681/2881 in 1995 - and it had no smoke unit then and no smoke unit ever since. Thanks for that Tom.
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Bigdaddynz		#14 Posted : 03 January 2010 17:13:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109 <br />maybe the next special feature is, you can't add a sound module because, well they think of something.
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Bigdaddynz		#15 Posted : 03 January 2010 17:16:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109 <br />There is your answer, David, why in the world would you think that in 14 years there would be a change of heart ? or even thew slightest deviation from a non smoking unit to a smoking unit. What were you thinking ? Indeed, what was I thinking? [^] Just as well Lutz hasn't posted to this thread! I'd have a sore botty by now! [:0] I shall repent in sackcloth and ashes. Whatever was I thinking questioning Marklin?? [:0][:0][^]
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#16 Posted : 04 January 2010 00:50:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mvd71 <br />Well stop sitting around, order some track, and start building a module to go with Big D's. No worries Mvd71 I'll put a start to it once I finished looking at women [:p][^][:0][:X]
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Bigdaddynz		#17 Posted : 04 January 2010 00:55:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		As you can see Mike, we still have some work to do on Alex........[:O]
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nevw		#18 Posted : 04 January 2010 00:57:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />As you can see Mike, we still have some work to do on Alex........[:O] Maybe that you will have to wait about 50 years before he stops looking at Women. [}:)][}:)] Whatever they are I have forgotten.
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river6109		#19 Posted : 04 January 2010 02:29:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,874 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />As you can see Mike, we still have some work to do on Alex........[:O] Maybe that you will have to wait about 50 years before he stops looking at Women. [}:)][}:)] Whatever they are I have forgotten. When I was young all I could say "WOW" and the word "WOMAN" came much later. I'm still use the word "WOW" and my wife says: What you want this time., she must of forgotten it also. You can see there is still some smoke coming out of the old chimney. 37193 reporting for light duties
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Davy		#20 Posted : 04 January 2010 03:07:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		I have this loc. You can not mount a smoke generator. The reason look at the picture. Loc drives beautiful by the way.
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river6109		#21 Posted : 04 January 2010 03:11:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,874 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		I thought Märklin screwed this one up, but they haven't I bet you somebody had a loose screw and said: It fits perfectly in here. Would'nt you agree ?
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mvd71		#22 Posted : 04 January 2010 07:00:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,		That's a real pain having a screw there, other wise it would have been an easy retrofit. Alex, the trick is not for you to look at the girls, but find a way to get them looking at you (in a good sense of course). In the meantime, build a module, go on, just do it. Order some K track and Noch Merkur roadbed and do it! Your first one can be as simple as two straight through lines!!! Cheers.... Mike.
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Bigdaddynz		#23 Posted : 04 January 2010 08:02:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		Thanks for the pictures Davy, yes it is a pity the screw is in the wrong place.
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mvd71		#24 Posted : 04 January 2010 10:25:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,		So... would it be appropriate to say that Marklin screwed this one up?
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Bigdaddynz		#25 Posted : 04 January 2010 10:27:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,767 Location: New Zealand		Seems that way!
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mvd71		#26 Posted : 04 January 2010 10:39:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,		Bit of a disappointment for those who purchased off the 2009 brochure. I can't understand why a smoke unit on a loco like this isn't standard fittment. But then I also think loco's like this and the BR39 should have come with a telex coupler on the tender too! [V] Cheers..... Mike. P.S. Still happy with my anatomically incorrect and out of date BR41[^]
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