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Offline Ranjit  
#1 Posted : 23 September 2009 18:33:15(UTC)
Ranjit


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Hi All,

After some years of storage, I found recently that the train number plate of my #37845 class 50 50th birthday locomotive has fallen off. I have tried several glues (Faller Expert Art. Nr. 492 and Vollmer Supranol 2000) to affix this plate properly to no avail. Do you guys have any suggestion?

Recent Marklin quality that I am not very happy about!

Cheers,
Ranjit
Modelling in HO Scale - Era III & IV. K+M Track, Analogue + Digital
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Offline tekin65  
#2 Posted : 23 September 2009 18:36:04(UTC)
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Ranjit hi,

Faller Expert and other plastic cement type glues are not suitable for the job. I'd suggest UHU or similar all purpose glues; they are strong enough and they leave no traces.

But care must be taken when applying, I use tip of a toothpick for sensitive jobs.

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

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Offline Webmaster  
#3 Posted : 24 September 2009 01:00:54(UTC)
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Thin layer of "contact" glue, or maybe acrylic "superglue"...

Carefully, as Cem says...
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Offline Ranjit  
#4 Posted : 24 September 2009 08:07:45(UTC)
Ranjit


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Hi Cem and Juhan,

Thank you for your suggestions. I like your new avatar, Juhan. One of my all time favourite characters. You guys have "made my day"!

I have a UHU All purpose Adhesive Super Cyanoacrylate). Do you think a small portion of this will do to affix the train number plate?

Cheers,
Ranjit
Modelling in HO Scale - Era III & IV. K+M Track, Analogue + Digital
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Offline nevw  
#5 Posted : 24 September 2009 09:33:16(UTC)
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Ranjit.
that should do it BUT BE CAREFUL
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 24 September 2009 10:53:47(UTC)
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Yep, make sure you glue the number plate and not your fingers Ranjit! Cyanoacrylate sets real fast and has been known to remove skin when fingers get glued instead of intended bits.

You may want to use a toothpick (as suggested above) to apply the glue, then some tweezers to apply the number plate.
Offline Hannu  
#7 Posted : 24 September 2009 12:18:32(UTC)
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Best solution is industrial quality cyanoacrylate glue. I have glued many parts on my garden railway with Loctite 480 including such parts which have mechanical stress, if there were large area for glue. The glue is very strong but I do not have yet own experience of its long time durability. However, I believe that it will not be a problem with high quality industrial glue. Loctite 480 is black, which may be problem for you, but your local Loctite dealer have also similar glues with clear color.

There are also cheap cyanoacrylates from many brands in nearly all larger stores. They are not as good as expensive industrial quality glue, but probably also such a glue can fix the number plate. There should not be high stresses to that part.
Offline tekin65  
#8 Posted : 24 September 2009 12:21:42(UTC)
tekin65

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Ranjit hi,

If I were you I wouldn't use cyano on that loco. You better try UHU all-purpose first; if it doesn't work then you can try cyano. If you must use cyano, try medium NOT thin.

Cem.
3 rail: C-track with CS2 2 rail: Trix C-track with Trix MS - K.Bay., DRG, DR, DB, SBB, TCDD

Now all eras but no ICE

My loco inventory for the interested
Offline Hannu  
#9 Posted : 24 September 2009 13:23:24(UTC)
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There are some safety and practical issues with cyanoacrylate, from which it may be good to write something. Safety first. Cyanoacrylate hardens with moisture. So, it glues skin much faster than metals or any other material. Be careful, I have glued few times something to my fingers and tried to cut it by knife without damaging the skin. It is no to easy, especially when one glued part is glued to the knifehand and other part to the other hand.

If you glue small details to the locomotive, you should use very small drops of glue. You can not get suitable amount straight from a tube or bottle. Instead that, put a small glue drop to a steel needle and try to move it to the number plate. I recommend that you practice first with a similar size part of metal or plastic.
Offline Ranjit  
#10 Posted : 24 September 2009 13:47:55(UTC)
Ranjit


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Hi Neville, David, Cem and Hannu,

Thank you all for your suggestions and cautionary statements. I will be careful.

Cheers,
Ranjit
Modelling in HO Scale - Era III & IV. K+M Track, Analogue + Digital
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"If you can dream it, you can do it" - Walt Disney
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